TPE Mark 5A coaching stock progress

[Erniescooper]

It's moving now. Anyone know what's on it?

Set 1 and 68020

 

[The_Train]

Set 1 and 68020

No sign of other locos heading out on test runs then?

 

[Bornin1980s]

All of the TPE allocated class 68's are now in full TPE colours.

Can those 68s still work other trains? Also, do they have full Mk5 controls in both cabs, or just one?

 

[The_Train]

Can those 68s still work other trains?

I saw 68019 pulling ballast from Mountsorrel to Crewe a couple of weeks back so I guess so

 

[Skymonster]

No sign of other locos heading out on test runs then?

A couple of the other TPE 68s have been doing regular driver training off Crewe several times a day - but without coaching sets.

 

[driver9000]

Can those 68s still work other trains? Also, do they have full Mk5 controls in both cabs, or just one?

In theory yes although unlikely given the high availability required to TPE once the mk5A sets are in traffic although 68019 has been hauling freight recently as part of a return to traffic test after it failed in Velim. Both cabs have been fitted with the necessary equipment to work with the coaches.

 

[pt_mad]

Presumably returning this evening in this path....

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O37165/2018/09/10/advanced

 

[mikemcniven]

68020 along with set TP01 (DT 12801) was out this afternoon heading down to Bletchley and back, I captured it at Heald Green

Transpennine Express DT 12801 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr


Transpennine Express 68020 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr


Transpennine Express 68020 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

 

[pt_mad]

68020 along with set TP01 (DT 12801) was out this afternoon heading down to Bletchley and back, I captured it at Heald Green


Transpennine Express DT 12801 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr


Transpennine Express 68020 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr


Transpennine Express 68020 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

Very nice. Is the DVT labelled with those numbers? (12801?)

 

[mikemcniven]

Very nice. Is the DVT labelled with those numbers? (12801?)

It is numbered up yes, just before the TPE logo towards the end of the DT (not at the front)

 

[Erniescooper]

No sign of other locos heading out on test runs then?

025 and possibly 024 should be out in the next couple of weeks

 

[D6975]

Looks like the next set is at Portbury, coming up on Tuesday morning.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K96124/2018/09/11/advanced

 

[SP Man]

Can you use both cabs as equipment in both. Normally planned for cab 2 against the stock and cab 1 leading.

 

[EE Andy b1]

Why would it matter what end of the class 68 is next to the MK5As if both cabs are fully equipped?

 

[Driveroopnorth]

Why would it matter what end of the class 68 is next to the MK5As if both cabs are fully equipped?

Because there is a switch that needs to be changed everytime whether the loco is leading or trailing which is located in the No.1 cab end - if the No.1 is next to the coaches then it will add time to the changing ends process (securing cabs etc..). It can and will probably happen at times but the general consensus is to keep it to a bare minimum.

 

[EE Andy b1]

Because there is a switch that needs to be changed everytime whether the loco is leading or trailing which is located in the No.1 cab end - if the No.1 is next to the coaches then it will add time to the changing ends process (securing cabs etc..). It can and will probably happen at times but the general consensus is to keep it to a bare minimum.

Right OK i understand.
So is this switch for basically isolating/connecting the Driving trailer and it's equipment via the Class 68s Multiple working system? So there is not two driving desks live at the same time.

 

[ic31420]

Right OK i understand.
So is this switch for basically isolating/connecting the Driving trailer and it's equipment via the Class 68s Multiple working system? So there is not two driving desks live at the same time.

Surely the desk key would do that?

My money is on some braking type switch .

 

[fowler9]

I saw a pair of Trans Pennine 68's head out of Liverpool through Wst Allerton at about 22:05 this evening. Anyone know which ones they were? Seen and heard loads of light engine movements the last few weeks.

 

[dilbertphil]

Number 1 cab has been requested to be the leading cab for 2 reasons. Firstly as the Mode switch to say if the loco is driving or trailing is far easier to access from number 1 and so will help with turnaround. Secondly it's for driver comfort as the number one end is far quieter especially when the ETS is switched on for the coaches.

 

[pt_mad]

Heard it mentioned that 68027 was parked up at Gresty Bridge at the weekend in TPE livery however unable to confirm.

 

[EE Andy b1]

Number 1 cab has been requested to be the leading cab for 2 reasons. Firstly as the Mode switch to say if the loco is driving or trailing is far easier to access from number 1 and so will help with turnaround. Secondly it's for driver comfort as the number one end is far quieter especially when the ETS is switched on for the coaches.

That all makes sense, thanks.

 

[Mag_seven]

Looks like the next set is at Portbury, coming up on Tuesday morning.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K96124/2018/09/11/advanced

I managed a couple of shots of this at Cheltenham:

 

[mikemcniven]

I managed a couple of shots of this at Cheltenham:

Was their any barrier coaches?

 

[Mag_seven]

Was their any barrier coaches?

No there were no barrier coaches.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Was their any barrier coaches?

Not needed, they are classic LHCS with screw couplings and buffers and traditional two pipe air brakes and so can be hauled directly by any locomotive.

 

[mikemcniven]

Not needed, they are classic LHCS with screw couplings and buffers and traditional two pipe air brakes and so can be hauled directly by any locomotive.

I was only asking as the previous deliveries have included them, 4 or 6 of them on the rear coupled to the DT

 

[sprinterguy]

I was only asking as the previous deliveries have included them, 4 or 6 of them on the rear coupled to the DT

More accurately described as brake force runners rather than barrier coaches, though I recognise that the latter is commonly used as a catch all term for the vehicles, I'm not here to split hairs over the matter. It's surprising if it's suddenly been decided that the deliveries by rail don't require them.

 

[EE Andy b1]

It's surprising if it's suddenly been decided that the deliveries by rail don't require them.

Not really, if during testing of the other sets and all the numbers add up, for brake force etc, then runners not required,
and as there out testing quite often now just with a class 68, vehicles must be ok to run.
They'll still be checked on arrival at the port and brake tested and running brake tests.

 

[notlob.divad]

It's surprising if it's suddenly been decided that the deliveries by rail don't require them.

Why is it surprising? The mk5a have begun mainline testing on UK rails. Therefore the authorities must have determined that their braking systems meet the requirements of the UK network and so they can run without the need for the barrier/brake force vehicles.

 

[mikemcniven]

My photos from Stockport of the NOVA MK5a delivery seen at Stockport as it headed to Longsight from Portbury

47812 hauling the stock


Rail Operations Group 47812 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

Driver Trailer 12805


Transpennine Express 12805 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

Standard Class with Cycle storage 12715


Transpennine Express 12715 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

First Class 11505


Transpennine Express 11505 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr