GRALISTAIR
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I will link it later but a TWAO has been published for Stalybridge station to eastern portal of Standedge tunnel
I've had a quick look but all I've found is this screening decision letter from DfT to Network Rail, dated yesterday, saying an Environmental Impact Assessment is NOT required.I will link it later but a TWAO has been published for Stalybridge station to eastern portal of Standedge tunnel
I understand that the 'bridge deck' just to east of Huddersfield station is being replaced over next week or so. Is this the wide one near the George hotel with around 3 separate decks? Will all the separate decks be replaced, avoiding the awkward angle which constrains the east end of the station?
I assume they mean 2 April?I think it is the Bradford Road Bridge that is being done next weekend. The matrix sign says closed from 28 March 22:30 until 2 February 05:00.
yes. I had a photo of the sign and it said 2/4 (meaning 2nd April), which confused me. Post edited.I assume they mean 2 April?
Re the ‘pause’ at White Rose. It’s only a couple of weeks ago that WYCA announced a tramline to the White Rose Centre (the one from St James’s Hospital via Leeds City Centre and Elland Road).
So maybe this needs factoring in to the White Rose plan, either to integrate with the White Rose Rail Station or even to replace it altogether.
Two new stations on the Manchester – York line (White Rose and Thorpe Park) won’t exactly speed up the line for the fast trains, unless four tracking is installed, something which is easier to introduce to the east of Leeds (ie Thorpe Park) than to the west (White Rose).
So, maybe a review is taking place.
The operator thing is down to the ill-fated 2018 timetable, Northern at the time didn't have any diesel units quick enough to make the timetable work (ha!)... so it's a combination of capacity and (suitable) stock availability. Currently there are two stopping trains per hour on that section of line Monday to Saturday (one Northern and one TPE), but the Northern one skips Cottingley and Ravensthorpe.Happened to be at the White Rose yesterday and got the train home from Cottingley - What is the reason for the delay/pause on the new station? Is it, as I have heard, due to plans needing to change to incorporate a terminus for a proposed tram line?
The bus interchange at the White Rose and the railway station are not close!
A PS: How come services to these stations between Huddersfield and Leeds are served by TPE trains rather than Northern? Is it a line capacity and stock availability thing?
That was one suggestion made in the discussion about White Rose on the previous page of this thread. I doubt anyone knows the real reason.Happened to be at the White Rose yesterday and got the train home from Cottingley - What is the reason for the delay/pause on the new station? Is it, as I have heard, due to plans needing to change to incorporate a terminus for a proposed tram line?
Happened to be at the White Rose yesterday and got the train home from Cottingley - What is the reason for the delay/pause on the new station? Is it, as I have heard, due to plans needing to change to incorporate a terminus for a proposed tram line?
The bus interchange at the White Rose and the railway station are not close!
A PS: How come services to these stations between Huddersfield and Leeds are served by TPE trains rather than Northern? Is it a line capacity and stock availability thing?
Tram (or similar) to Elland Road and White Rose weren't remotely a thing when work started on White Rose (the station), it's a recent development. It's more likely to be because of costs, which are rising everywhere. They won't abandon it now, with the amount that's been built. They'll probably have to move money around in some budgets, dip into the City Region Sustainable Transport Settlement perhaps (I think White Rose was funded though the £173.5m Leeds got after the trolleybus scheme was canned).That was one suggestion made in the discussion about White Rose on the previous page of this thread. I doubt anyone knows the real reason.
Why is the area of earthworks so vast? Is that all TRU or is other land remediation/groundwork being done at the same time (for redevelopment maybe?)?Drone flight over the construction work happening around Ravensthorpe.
I think it possibly looks much wider than you’d expect because it’s being done to modern standards of slope, drainage and watercourse diversion, etc etc, you can often see this with the huge width taken up by HS2 earthworks. Much of it will be restored back to fields and grassy banks later.Why is the area of earthworks so vast? Is that all TRU or is other land remediation/groundwork being done at the same time (for redevelopment maybe?)?
And we'll say,I think it possibly looks much wider than you’d expect because it’s being done to modern standards of slope, drainage and watercourse diversion, etc etc, you can often see this with the huge width taken up by HS2 earthworks. Much of it will be restored back to fields and grassy banks later.
I’m imagining the accent already …And we'll say,
"I remember when all this was just grim, desolate, industrial wasteland. That were afore t'railway spoiled it with its modern fields and its up to date grassy banks"
Why is the area of earthworks so vast? Is that all TRU or is other land remediation/groundwork being done at the same time (for redevelopment maybe?)?
White Rose is a complicated looking project building on an embankment - maybe found some unexpected ground conditions?
Or just the complication of being jointly funded - when it goes over budget there will be bickering over who pays.
White Rose is a complicated looking project building on an embankment - maybe found some unexpected ground conditions?
One assumes they noticed it getting built when they resignalled through it last year.Just curious: does anyone know if White Rose has been properly incorporated into TRU plans for that section of line ?
One assumes they noticed it getting built when they resignalled through it last year.
I think so - an aerial survey on RouteView seemed to lend a suggestion to piles being driven in the embankment for OLE portals long before the platform mini-piles went in.I was thinking more about the fizzy knitting!
Especially since the platforms are on piles and no-doubt the stantions will have to be further out than that on an embankment.
I seem to remember some OHLE-specific piles being drilled at White Rose a while back, with the structure installed at a later date.There was discussion somewhere upthread about the Manchester-Stalybridge piling team making a working visit to White Rose, but it wasn't entirely clear whether it was for work for the platforms or for masts.