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Transpennine Route Upgrade and Electrification updates

hwl

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Please see attached an FOI response about W12 clearance as part of the TRU and another W12 project still in the design phase.

Not sure if this warrants its own thread.
Critical part of this is:

Apologies for formatting - the table in the PDF did not copy out neatly, perhaps unsurprisingly. Any discussion of the non-TRU W12 projects probably does need it's own thread to avoid swerving this one.
One of the key gaps not asked about is the planned cleared freight route Thornhill Jn - Wakefield Kirkgate via Healey Mills (LN854 / MVN2) ;)
 
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I see from Robert Stenhouses latest Flickr pictures at Mirfield the footbrige towers and cross deck have been lifted into placed some point. So much happening.
K
 

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I see from Robert Stenhouses latest Flickr pictures at Mirfield the footbrige towers and cross deck have been lifted into placed some point. So much happening.
So it is..

Wondering what the point of the footbridge + its lifts at Mirfield. As I understood it... the only platforms will be the slow line. So, the bridge and two lifts will complement a lift going down to road level of the road-underbridge.

Other than saving a short walk up the car park ramp (as passengers with cars would currently do).. what purpose does it serve, is it worth the ££?
 

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Is anyone aware if the Stalybridge to Manchester Airport Class 802 shuttles are using OLE all the way to/from Stalybridge, beyond the usual APCO changeover?
 

Batley Lad

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Re Batley Area

Piling has started in and around Batley train station and the Batley end of Morley tunnel.

Opposing driven pile casings are visible from Soothill overbridge towards Batley station. (orange covers)

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Towards the former Lady Ann Crossing, areas have been cleared of line side vegetation and marked out. The one below is adjacent to the up Huddersfield line.

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Additionally, I managed a couple of photos of a work crew heading towards Morley tunnel. I noticed the pile casings have line marking on the outer side and have what appears to be provision for bolts at one end only.

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I can guess that the line markings are for correct depth but the provision for bolts has me stumped!

Is this for joining two casing together or for some type of bracket to accommodate the line side OLE masts?
 

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Any type of base plate could be made to fit those standard bolt hole patterns be it for OHL masts or signal posts
 

Batley Lad

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Thank you for the replies.

I noticed a couple of days ago that some work crews had a mix of casings and steel re-bar cages fitted with bolts and brackets at one end.

And this is a very large guess in that the casings I photographed earlier are still to be bored out, have re-bar cages installed and then concreted?

Or do we have two different types of casings and processes involved to facilitate the OLE mast foundations?

Sorry, I don’t have a railway or construction background and I tend to write what I see.
 

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Depends on ground conditions amongst other things.
Sometimes there is just a pile driven into the ground
Sometimes after the pile is driven, the earth is augered out and back filled with reinforced concrete.

Now and again, as on the Preston Manchester scheme Thundering great gravity pads are installed.
 

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Re Batley Area

Piling has started in and around Batley train station and the Batley end of Morley tunnel.

Opposing driven pile casings are visible from Soothill overbridge towards Batley station. (orange covers)

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Towards the former Lady Ann Crossing, areas have been cleared of line side vegetation and marked out. The one below is adjacent to the up Huddersfield line.

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Additionally, I managed a couple of photos of a work crew heading towards Morley tunnel. I noticed the pile casings have line marking on the outer side and have what appears to be provision for bolts at one end only.

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I can guess that the line markings are for correct depth but the provision for bolts has me stumped!

Is this for joining two casing together or for some type of bracket to accommodate the line side OLE masts?
As people above have said, the provision of the "bosses" (the little cylinders welded on at the pile tops) is indeed for holding the masts in place. As for the sprayed lines, they are 250mm intervals used to mark how far down the pile was driven.
 

hwl

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Thank you for the replies.

I noticed a couple of days ago that some work crews had a mix of casings and steel re-bar cages fitted with bolts and brackets at one end.
Technically "threaded stud" rather than "bolt"
And this is a very large guess in that the casings I photographed earlier are still to be bored out, have re-bar cages installed and then concreted?

Or do we have two different types of casings and processes involved to facilitate the OLE mast foundations?

Sorry, I don’t have a railway or construction background and I tend to write what I see.
Probably two different casing types but can be combined.
Normally the steel piles are just driven in to the ground and if ground conditions aren't great then a longer pile tends to get used as the first option. The one in the picture are typical lenght
Concrete Rebar foundations are normally in used in complex locations (either poor geology or problematic for other reasons e.g. adjacent to existing structure)
There is also a hybrid option for some poor geology situations where the steel pile is driven in and then augured out, rebar dropped in and filled with concrete but the pile and rebar combination you described is wrong for this option as the rebar cages would have threaded stud...
 

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Thank you for the detailed responses that add and expand my understanding and knowledge. Very much appreciated.
 

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So it is..

Wondering what the point of the footbridge + its lifts at Mirfield. As I understood it... the only platforms will be the slow line. So, the bridge and two lifts will complement a lift going down to road level of the road-underbridge.

Other than saving a short walk up the car park ramp (as passengers with cars would currently do).. what purpose does it serve, is it worth the ££?

Fishwomp, its still two lifts only the one on the station side does both the island and the new bridge over to the carpark. It just means the less able bodied will not need to trail all the way down to the road (currently cobbled) and then back up to the carpark next to the soon to be removed platform 3
 
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The latest video by Sarah Bell shows a lot of Mirfield. However I've noticed that the current Eastbound platform appears to becoming the future westbound Platform. Have I got that right?
 

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The latest video by Sarah Bell shows a lot of Mirfield. However I've noticed that the current Eastbound platform appears to becoming the future westbound Platform. Have I got that right?
That’s right.
eventually the order of tracks at Mirfield, from north to south, will be:

Slow to Leeds/wakefield
island platform
slow to Huddersfield/brighouse
fast Hudds to leeds (no platform)
fast Leeds to Hudds (no platform)

Right now you have:

building site
island platform
to Leeds/wakefield
from Leeds (no platform)
from Leeds/wakefield
platform
 
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YorkshireBear

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That’s right.
eventually the order of tracks from north to south will be:

Slow to Leeds/wakefield
island platform
slow to Huddersfield/brighouse
fast Hudds to leeds (no platform)
fast Leeds to Hudds (no platform)

Right now you have
building site
island platform
to Leeds/wakefield
from Leeds (no platform)
from Leeds/wakefield
platform
It all seems quite sensibly staged the work in that area. Allowing them to crack on a fair bit while trains are running. I know they have a few bridge lifts coming in too on the upcoming weekend closures in that area.
 

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Re Batley

Still making good progress and if I have the lines correct, the most resent piling work has been concentrated adjacent to the down Huddersfield.

Additionally, just before the cross-over points, there are two piles next to each other which differ in height for some reason!

The below photos are taken from Soothill overbridge looking towards Lady Anne crossing.

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The pattern of piling follows the down Huddersfield line all the way beyond the former Lady Ann Signal box.

The one exception is one solitary pile adjacent to the Up Huddersfield line and placed between the new footbridge and the former signal box.

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The next two piles are placed either side of the former Lady Anne signal box.


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Re Batley

Still making good progress and if I have the lines correct, the most resent piling work has been concentrated adjacent to the down Huddersfield.

Additionally, just before the cross-over points, there are two piles next to each other which differ in height for some reason!

The below photos are taken from Soothill overbridge looking towards Lady Anne crossing.

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The pattern of piling follows the down Huddersfield line all the way beyond the former Lady Ann Signal box.

The one exception is one solitary pile adjacent to the Up Huddersfield line and placed between the new footbridge and the former signal box.

View attachment 181481

The next two piles are placed either side of the former Lady Anne signal box.


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The two near each other will be part of the wiring of the crossover. They are at slightly different height I suspect that's just part of the installation tolerance.
 

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Latest Sara Bell video shows the new Heaton Lodge footbridge components being transported along the track from a compound to there final location.
As a large rail mounted crane was involved perhaps it's being erected today (Sun).
K
 

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Latest Sara Bell video shows the new Heaton Lodge footbridge components being transported along the track from a compound to there final location.
As a large rail mounted crane was involved perhaps it's being erected today (Sun).
K
Yes they were being transported for installation in this weekends block.
 

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Noticed as well on my travels on Friday after riding along Bradley viaduct coming over the colliery bridge on the calder valley greenway nr leeds Rd progress is been made erecting the new concrete bridge to replace the colliery bridge that goes across the railway to huddersfield.
 
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Got the train from Garforth into work yesterday and noticed masts have been installed from the East Garforth side nearly to the platforms
Views from East Garforth footbridge
 

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Don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet or not but wires are up between Adamson’s LC (Church Fenton) and Barkston Ash bridge on the Up/Down Leeds, with the Down line having the wires extend a bit further back from Leeds side at the moment
 

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Don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet or not but wires are up between Adamson’s LC (Church Fenton) and Barkston Ash bridge on the Up/Down Leeds, with the Down line having the wires extend a bit further back from Leeds side at the moment

Just pulled in to take a quick picture.

The wires start at Coldhill Lane Bridge, Sherburn on the York-bound side.

Hopefully they have a plan to get these energised as soon as possible to prevent them going missing as happened at Wigan. Plenty of lads with pickups around here.

Photo looking towards Barkston Ash:
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With the bridge at Crossgates getting demolished this weekend, does anyone know what the plan for reaching the platforms is? I assume that after the weekend demolition of the bridge, there will be some sort of pedestrian access maintained, as it will be a long way round to get off the Leeds platform into Croggy!
 

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