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No problem, not meant to be an insult, just thought I'd explain where I got the information
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how one of the drivers explained it they were doing diferent failure modes of one vehicle while the other one recovered it all went well im told
Was this still in the depot or have they finally been allowed out for on-network testing?
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On the Depot
krus_aragon
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Training on failure modes is a very good thing to do before any new train leaves the depot!
Maybe the 769s will be used on a new service lol
Cardiff Canton to Cardiff Canton via Cardiff Canton.
Cannot see it doing much though!
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https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/tr...XfB2zofWL8To-RCh25weUFOM2iDFRCRM0RffdDCkl1adU
Apparently this is a 769 delivery on Tuesday (3/3/20) - is this the fourth unit...?
Apparently this is a 769 delivery on Tuesday (3/3/20) - is this the fourth unit...?
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Apparently so
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If they are delivering another one then they must be pretty confident they work. Are there four? Only knew of two?
Philip Roberts
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They have three at the moment so this would be the fourth. I've seem videos of two moving around Pullmans.
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Can't see any paths for Rhymney training on RTT. Perhaps they are planning to stay in the depot for another week.
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There are some trips to Bargoed tomorrow
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The first three are 769002, 769008 and 769006, delivered on 14/3/19, 15/5/19 and 4/12/19 respectively
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Thanks, I missed 006 coming down. Filmed 002 passing by a year ago.
anthony263
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Another delivery due this week. So far I know tfw are waiting for 769003 and 769009
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allocated unit numbers are 769002/003/006/007/008, 769426 and 3x unidentified 769/4s. there's no 769009
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Looking at RTT, not sure if the delivery is happening. No time updates.
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Nope, cancelled today
There’s a surprise, who wasn’t expecting that?
anthony263
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Took 3 attempts to deliver 769008
The 769 story so far......
Total farce!
Bet you a million bucks
When they finally do enter service
They will be very problematic!
When were these supposed to have entered service?
Might had been quicker to third rail the valley lines and use them as 319s.
I thought the Valleys were getting tram-trains eventually?
The 769s sound short gap (pardon the pun lol).
Even shorter now they are heavily delayed!
Total farce!
Bet you a million bucks
When they finally do enter service
They will be very problematic!
When were these supposed to have entered service?
Might had been quicker to third rail the valley lines and use them as 319s.
I thought the Valleys were getting tram-trains eventually?
The 769s sound short gap (pardon the pun lol).
Even shorter now they are heavily delayed!
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The 769s were originally originally supposed to enter service in Spring/Summer 2018 under Arriva Trains Wales. So they are now almost 2 years late.
krus_aragon
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I really didn't expect to still be playing the "which will enter TfW service first: 230s or 769s?" game by now. 
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Agree. The 230's seemed nailed on but they still don't seem ready to go. 230002 is regularly testing but no sign of any of the others. Maybe we will see some 769 movement in the next week or two.
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Can tell you that it would not have been quicker trying to get the safety case through.
End of the day, I think Porterbrook were far too optimistic about the physical condition of the 319s after 30 years of intensive Thameslink service.
PaulHarding150
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They were always for short term use. They’ll now just be for short term use.
769s are going to be exclusively used on the Caerphilly/Bargoed Line.
The planned Tram-Trains (Class 398) are for use from Merthyr/Aberdare/Treherbert lines to Cardiff and Cardiff Bay only. They’ll be powered by battery and 25k OHLs. They’re due to enter service towards the end of 2022.
Presumably we'll see them in Penarth as the Bargoeds run through to there?
tomwills98
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They'll be going Rhymney to Penarth as per the timetable now.
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Anyone got any info on if these will leave Canton this week? Any paths in RTT? It's only 10 weeks until the May TT change!
TfW better get the PRM dispensation extension applications in for the Pacers
TfW better get the PRM dispensation extension applications in for the Pacers
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