Transport for Wales 769's

[6Gtraincrew]

Does anyone know why there isn't a 004 or 005?

 

[59CosG95]

Does anyone know why there isn't a 004 or 005?

The units are converted from former Class 319s, keeping the same 3-digit unit no. E.g. 769008 was 319008.

319004 was scrapped earlier this year, and 319005 is in service with London Northwestern Railway.

 

[6Gtraincrew]

The units are converted from former Class 319s, keeping the same 3-digit unit no. E.g. 769008 was 319008.

319004 was scrapped earlier this year, and 319005 is in service with London Northwestern Railway.

Thanks

 

[Mrs. Fortescue]

769445 got hit by the graffiti artists a few weeks ago. Thankfully not one of the ones that has been repainted. Haven't seen it since to know if it has been removed yet.

For anyone wondering, I know this because I saw it at Canton sat there. It was a bright orange and went over the bodywork and just touched the bottom of the window pane.

 

[Bob Price]

Saw a video on YouTube today with 008 and 002 where they were using dispatch bells. Have they moved onto Guard training?

 

[craigybagel]

Saw a video on YouTube today with 008 and 002 where they were using dispatch bells. Have they moved onto Guard training?

They've been using the bells since day one (or at least you can hear them in those early videos).

 

[Bob Price]

They've been using the bells since day one (or at least you can hear them in those early videos).

Not noticed it before. There's me getting my hopes up

 

[craigybagel]

Not noticed it before. There's me getting my hopes up

I wouldn't worry too much - there aren't that many guards to train at Rhymney and it shouldn't be an especially long course, even with Covid to deal with.

 

[_toommm_]

Will they be doing the doors from the passenger saloons? I can't remember if the 319s have a proper door control panel in the cabs other than on the driver's desk

 

[Bletchleyite]

Will they be doing the doors from the passenger saloons? I can't remember if the 319s have a proper door control panel in the cabs other than on the driver's desk

The LNR ones are worked from the cabs but I don't know if that is a retrofit?

 

[_toommm_]

The LNR ones are worked from the cabs but I don't know if that is a retrofit?

Thanks. It seems Northern must be a bit averse with dispatching from some cabs as they've banned it on 170s too, supposedly due to the high step down. I can understand with the 195s and 331s though as they had to have door controls fitted as an afterthought.

 

[craigybagel]

As fitted 319s had door controls for guards in the cabs. Northern ripped those out and put them in the saloons instead so that guards have to dispatch from there. I don't know what the plan is for TFW - on other stock they prefer a combination of the two.

 

[Senna1210]

No controls in the cabs all in the saloons

 

[Mrs. Fortescue]

769008 causing a few issues on Platform 6 at Central this morning.

Announcer said the"test train" had developed a fault at the platform and had to go back to the shed, meaning the 0807 Merthyr was delayed by 10 mins.

Oops!

 

[anthony263]

008 always seems to be the one causing problems

 

[Senna1210]

The unit that faulted this morning was 769006 not 008

 

[Mrs. Fortescue]

The unit that faulted this morning was 769006 not 008

Apologies - blame my eyes!

 

[anthony263]

Rumour mill locally is that 1or maybe 2 class 769s will be entering public service next week. Chsnges been made to the timetable with some of the Rhymney to Bridgend services split at Cardiff central.

The other 2 769s will continue to be used for testing and staff training

 

[PaulHarding150]

Well that's promosing. But let's not get carried away just yet!

 

[PHILIPE]

There are currently changes being made to the Timetable but not yet complete. 0714 ex Rhymney is terminating at Cardiff Central and a fresh train to Bridgend for starters so watch this space.

 

[anthony263]

Well that's promosing. But let's not get carried away just yet!

We will see what happens next week

 

[Jamesrob637]

If this happens, TfW will have beaten Northern at their own game.

Unless Northern are planning to do likewise next week (appreciating there's a separate thread for Northern 769s!)

 

[craigybagel]

Rumour mill locally is that 1or maybe 2 class 769s will be entering public service next week. Chsnges been made to the timetable with some of the Rhymney to Bridgend services split at Cardiff central.

The other 2 769s will continue to be used for testing and staff training

There are currently changes being made to the Timetable but not yet complete. 0714 ex Rhymney is terminating at Cardiff Central and a fresh train to Bridgend for starters so watch this space.

The timetable change is a requirement of getting the 769s into service (as they won't be able to run to Bridgend). But it goes without saying, just because the timetable allows for 769s to be introduced it doesn't mean that they will be straight away.

 

[6Gtraincrew]

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[Senna1210]

769002 will be running next week into service

 

[DorkingMain]

No controls in the cabs all in the saloons

Surprised by this, doesn't seem like a very safe method of working if the train is very busy

 

[Bletchleyite]

Surprised by this, doesn't seem like a very safe method of working if the train is very busy

In what way isn't it safe? (It is probably inconvenient though if you have to keep squashing past crowds to get to the panel).

 

[Wolfie]

In what way isn't it safe? (It is probably inconvenient though if you have to keep squashing past crowds to get to the panel).

Not ideal during a pandemic.

 

[Mrs. Fortescue]

I’ve also heard 002 in service from Monday.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Not ideal during a pandemic.

Indeed not, though as that's temporary they can deal with it by blocking off part of one of the coaches, as at the moment 4 certainly aren't needed.