What's the source of this information, please?
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Are they a part of Trent, or is it just rumours?
Part of trent
I would assume so. Its done mickleover and red arrow before so its always possible. I had left derby by the time it started on Allestree, nearly just missed seeing it.
What actually makes the stop/start unreliable? I have been on loads of indigos and i4s with the technology on and at most more recently, it just makes me panic that we might of broken down.
I can't remember the source to save my life, but I read somewhere that for stop/start to actually save energy and offset startup requirement, the vehicle must be "stopped" for seven seconds or more.
I've just seen 669 on the Allestree, 18.00 ex Derby.
For whatever reason, the Allestree Enviros seem to be off far too often. As the drivers will know, it is very rare to be all four on the road. So, you tend to get just two or three in service, and rarely a spare. Every time I used to encounter stop/start, it seemed to restart in about 3 or 4 seconds.
I think the driver putting their foot on the accelerator would make it restart.
Given how short derby depot has been especially in the last few days I'm not surprised they managed to get a loaner in
Maybe the handbrake has to be engaged to stop it restarting. I recall S/S was not used when such buses were stopped at traffic lights etc, where you could argue that they might stand for longer
I think its something to do with the door being open. Was on an 269 on red arrow a while ago and had a similar thought about why it didn't do it then. Especially when in cars when it activates tends to be at traffic lights.
It works on the door switches, they used to operate on the handbrake but they had a habit of not restarting when you took the handbrake off and had to do a manual restart at traffic lights often missing the sequence of the lights
Thought so, must of been annoying cars behind who are getting more delayed when the bus doesn't move. Thus making people less interested in getting the bus.
Bad enough cars not moving, whilst their drivers check their phones
You can imagine yes, the system can be overiden if you keep the foot brake applied without the handbrake but that's a bit on the dangerous side incase the driver sneezed for example while someone got off as the bus will move
Yep.
True. Its quite bad as well when they start pulling off and the doors still are wide open
I have noticed a shift with enthusiasts in many threads
I think that's just Wellglade's aversion to said "rare workings".
Yes, at one time, a branded bus on another route was as rare as hen's teeth. Now it is more the norm. I can see why.
From what I gather the ECU failed which caused the gearbox to go haywire and seize and take the engine out in the process (at 40mph from what i was told). I have not heard this it is a right off but I don't think it takes a smart man to see that there is a high chance it could be.
Yes it did to my disappointment I did try to get it on the 1805 comet instead of 491( had that instead of 750 as it threw it toys out the pram earlier in the day) but got told no only did 2 or 3 trips before it got replaced by a normal Allestree ADL.
Oh, far better 669 on a few trips on the Allestree, as it would be available to go back to Nottingham earlier. Ironic that Allestree Enviros 200MMC , 267 was seemingly the bus that failed. I'd think former driver Badger Clark will always remember that bus. And again today, 267 went down around the University. At least sister Enviro 200MMC 265 is back after it's six week rest. Solo 491 would be fine on the Comet route
Wowsers, if it's as bad as we've both heard they might deem it more cost effective to repaint an old threes bus since there's an abundance of them waiting for a slot in the paint shop
An ex-three would definitely not suit the sixes.
I wouldn't have thought it matters, to be honest. 491 seems happy plodding around on 6.2s. - a bus is a bus to the end user.
Yea 267 seems to be quite troublesome as of late. Out of all the older solos i dont mind driving 491 as its got some power to it so it copes with the hill alot better than its sister 492...(less said about that one the better) but both have the same issue of very Dodgey fuel gauges. Late in the day once yo get down to a quater of a tank it cant decide if you have got any fuel or not so spent my return trip with the fuel light constatnly turning on and offOh, far better 669 on a few trips on the Allestree, as it would be available to go back to Nottingham earlier. Ironic that Allestree Enviros 200MMC , 267 was seemingly the bus that failed. I'd think former driver Badger Clark will always remember that bus. And again today, 267 went down around the University. At least sister Enviro 200MMC 265 is back after it's six week rest. Solo 491 would be fine on the Comet route
.827 can do the sixes route but with it having a solo engine it does put alot more strain on the engine on those routes.
For Cromford Hill, a bus is a challenge. Over the years, it seems to have finished a few off
Yeah, but it would struggle on the likes of 6.1 and little six. I got on 483 from Bakewell to Derby a while ago, it was full and really struggled, if it wasn't a solo it might of had its weight distributed a bit better and struggled less
Oh yes definitely it would be well overworked dealing with cromford hill I'm sure it's a 1 in 8 incline around 2 miles long. I'm sure a few Belper duties only operate between derby and Ripley and are parked up at half 6
