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Trivia: curious headcode coincidences?

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Peter Mugridge

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I spotted this in the TOPS request thread:

What is tomorrow's 1D15 1015 STP - NOT tomorrow, thanks in advance

...and it got me thinking.

Are there any other instances where the headcode and the time of departure from the point of origin look pretty much the same as each other?
 
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When I was a very small child in the late 1950's I would often be taken to the station (Ashtead, on the Epsom-Dorking line) to meet my Dad from his homeward commute from Victoria. His train left Victoria at 1808, so he would say "I will be on the 6.8". When his train came in with an 86 headcode this seemed to me to be completely logical (if the wrong way round!).

It was a little later when I learned about SR headcodes, and 86 (if I remember correctly) was Victoria-Horsham via Mitcham....
 

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Not on quite the same lines, but of course Eurostar running numbers are 90xx and 91xx and so receive "headcodes" of 9Oxx and 9Ixx respectively
 

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Not on quite the same lines, but of course Eurostar running numbers are 90xx and 91xx and so receive "headcodes" of 9Oxx and 9Ixx respectively
I thought the running numbers where chosen to match the headcodes rather than vice versa?
 

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On many routes headcodes simply follow in numerical order, on the Portsmouth line the 1200 from Waterloo is 1P33, the 1230 is 1P35, the 1300 is 1P37 and so on. The even numbers are for up trains, odd numbers for down trains.
 

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Times are a nicety which sometimes fit with the sequence, but unfortunately often don't. Matt Taylor hits the nail on the head when he mentions the numerical order of odd / even numbers. Frequent services tend to see more ordered sequences of headcodes numbered in this way. Sometimes they will skip numbers where a path exists but no service is booked to run - eg. all headcodes may be used in peak times, but off-peak, every other odd/even number might be used for the basic service. For example, perhaps the infrastructure supports half-hourly trains but an hourly service runs off-peak.

As I've posted before, some headcodes are also geographical - you get regional markers, such as certain trains being rendered as 1Sxx if they go across the border from England to Scotland. 1Axx tends to be the primary service group, if there is one, at any given TOC - GTR's Brighton Mainline services, for example. Others take the letter in their headcode from the first distinctive point at which they diverge from other routes. Again, with GTR - and the old Southern franchise before them - 1Exx refers to services to Uckfield, which diverge from the East Grinstead route at Hurst Green Jn, and the first stop south of there is Edenbridge Town, giving the letter E. The first unique station towards East Grinstead is Lingfield - and guess what, most East Grinstead trains are 2Lxx!
 

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During the Gloucestershire water crisis in 2007 after the floods a train full of water had the headcode something like 1H20
 

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Was there ever a milk train with the headcode 1M00?
 
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