Trivia: Electrification that's (likely) never been used.

[HamworthyGoods]

Darlington south-facing bays platforms 2 and 3?

That would be challenging as they aren’t wired.

 

[gg1]

The north facing bay at Wolverhampton?

The only vaguely plausible use is for overnight stabling of EMUs but not sure if it's ever been used for that purpose.

 

[OverSpeed]

Just out of interest traction is booked to go down the wired Aston-Stechford in Birmingham? I have a sneaking suspicion it might be used for ecs moves, can anyone confirm this?

 

[Whistler40145]

Just out of interest traction is booked to go down the wired Aston-Stechford in Birmingham? I have a sneaking suspicion it might be used for ecs moves, can anyone confirm this?

Always used when Avanti services are diverted from Stafford to Rugby when the Trent Valley is closed for engineering work or emergencies

 

[stantheman]

Monktonhall Jct to Millerhill yard

 

[Whistler40145]

Soho North Junction to Soho East Junction

 

[gg1]

Always used when Avanti services are diverted from Stafford to Rugby when the Trent Valley is closed for engineering work or emergencies

Likewise the Caledonian sleepers for the same reason.

 

[rower40]

That would be challenging as they aren’t wired.

Serves me right for making assumptions about the thick and thin lines in the line diagrams in the Sectional Appendix. I searched the TPRs but that doesn't say what's got OLE and what hasn't.
Thanks for the correction and info.

 

[oglord]

The Relief lines between Severn Tunnel Junction and Cardiff, though they may see some electric trains for the upcoming Six Nations Rugby matches in Cardiff and during engineering work.

I have seen electric units using all four lines and all four platforms and both through lines at Newport.

 

[Cheshire Scot]

there is talk of remodelling the west end to enable the bays to accommodate 6x 23 or 5x 26 but this may result in loss of the forth banks siding. It’s only used for stabling and doesn't see use by engineering trains down to the former goods station any more so wouldn’t be a great loss.

The sad thing is there was a like for like track renewal just a few years ago when nobody had the foresight to make provision for longer trains.
A remodelling might potentially enable the retention of Forth Banks but with reduced options to access it if it were felt worthwhile, but as noted it apparently doesn't see much use these days

 

[pgfb1306]

They should do because eventually peak Corby services may be operated with 3 x 4-car Class 360s. Also remember, the class 360 and 700 EMUs are formed of 20m* cars, unlike the 23m* Meridian sets.

* nominal

I've been off platform one on a Corby with a 8 car and a dead 360 on the buffers, and still a bit on the top.

 

[Kite159]

Soho North Junction to Soho East Junction

I've had a 323 over that short section of track on the Saturday morning Wolverhampton - Walsall 'Direct' service. The usual route was closed for engineering works.

Also I think there is an ECS which goes that way as a positioning move to/from Walsall

 

[AM9]

I've been off platform one on a Corby with a 8 car and a dead 360 on the buffers, and still a bit on the top.

So it looks like there's a 240+m platform there.

 

[YorksLad12]

Are platforms 7 & 14 (East facing bays) electrified at Leeds? If so, can't be much electric traction that's used them.

P17 caters for the diesel services to Castleford, Knottingley and Barnsley (and Sheffield, Nottingham and Lincoln). At the other end, P0 mostly (but not wholly) sees diesel units to Harrogate and beyond. Both are wired up (and P0 does see some electrics of course).

 

[matchmaker]

Do any electric hauled freights go to Grangemouth? I know that Falkirk Grahamston terminators use the branch to turn round.

 

[mcmad]

The south facing bay on the Up line at Berwick Upon Tweed is wired but the tracks long since lifted. The termination mast has a plaque on it, from memory a "this was the X,000,000 mast planted as part of the ECML electrification.

 

[swt_passenger]

So it looks like there's a 240+m platform there.

All 4 are given as 260m in the sectional appendix.

 

[BarryD]

The Down Bay at Gordon Hill.

Trump that!

Before covid, I think there were one or two peak-time trains that terminated in platform 1.

 

[whoosh]

Before covid, I think there were one or two peak-time trains that terminated in platform 1.

@BarryD

That's the Up Bay!

 

[d9009alycidon]

Do any electric hauled freights go to Grangemouth? I know that Falkirk Grahamston terminators use the branch to turn round.

90034 worked a Mossend to Grangemouth service today

 

[Whistler40145]

Have the Freight lines at Ince Moss being mentioned?

 

[jonesy3001]

Are platforms 7 & 14 (East facing bays) electrified at Leeds? If so, can't be much electric traction that's used them.

LNER use platform 7, occasionally get the ilkley train from 10 to Menston, depends if platforms 0 to 6 are full.

 

[AMD]

Liverpool Wapping sidings, on the south side of Edge Hill station, this is wired all the way to the end of the line at the far end of Crown Street tunnel - possibly last used in the 80s or early 90s by electric locos?
Also the bay platforms at Lancaster???

Have the Freight lines at Ince Moss being mentioned?

The Ince Moss line has been used by electric passenger trains at least twice in the last two years when there's been a block on the Chat Moss route.

 

[plugwash]

The wires to Hazel Grove can only be used when services terminate there.

There was a period (and depending on what the "Manchester recovery taskforce" does there may be a period again in the future) where very little used the electrification at Hazel Grove, but at present there are regular electric services between hazel grove and Blackpool

 

[Whistler40145]

Liverpool Wapping sidings, on the south side of Edge Hill station, this is wired all the way to the end of the line at the far end of Crown Street tunnel - possibly last used in the 80s or early 90s by electric locos?
Also the bay platforms at Lancaster???


The Ince Moss line has been used by electric passenger trains at least twice in the last two years when there's been a block on the Chat Moss route.

I've done the line to Crown Street Liverpool on a diverted Euston to Blackpool North with a 87 and Mk 3 DVT set

 

[Western 52]

Swansea Maliphant Hitachi depot had electrification almost completed before the decision to end the wires at Cardiff. Since then most of the equipment on the posts was removed, but posts mainly still there. What a waste of resources and money!

 

[najaB]

What a waste of resources and money!

Only a waste of resources if (a) the equipment wasn't reused elsewhere; and (b) the wires never reach Swansea. Agreed that there was a waste of time and money.

 

[Cheshire Scot]

There was a period (and depending on what the "Manchester recovery taskforce" does there may be a period again in the future) where very little used the electrification at Hazel Grove, but at present there are regular electric services between hazel grove and Blackpool

Yes, for a number of years it was one train per day, something like 19.22 from Piccadilly, I can't recall if it returned in service or empty.

 

[route101]

Larkfield - Shields has been used for diverted passenger trains when the route through Eglinton Street and including the route off the Cathcart circle have been blocked for engineering.

I think a 390 went that route on diversion. I could be dreaming.

 

[stuu]

The Down Bay at Gordon Hill.

Trump that!

That would be amongst the most difficult, I think there are a few other similar places though

(Wires but no track)