Trivia: Most TOCs at one station?

[Denzo]

Without a doubt the most bizarre fact about the UK railways is that despite all of the different TOCs that operate up and down the country, all trains serving the busiest station are served by a single TOC (namely South West trains at London Waterloo)

Most I can come up with is six at Edinburgh Waverley (Scotrail, VTEC, VTWC, Transpennine express, CrossCountry and Caledonian sleeper)

Haymarket has the same six by extension and possible Glasgow Central as well (although I'm not sure whether VTEC still has services that run to Glasgow Central, or if the Glasgow sleepers run from Queen Street as opposed to Central)

 

[johnnychips]

This has come up several times and the two stations with TOCs that call there were Doncaster and Crewe with seven.

 

[Ibex]

I think it's Doncaster which has the most TOC's?

CrossCountry
East Midlands Trains
Grand Central
Hull Trains
Northern
Transpennine Express
Virgin Trains East Coast

 

[yorkie]

Without a doubt the most bizarre fact about the UK railways is that despite all of the different TOCs that operate up and down the country, all trains serving the busiest station are served by a single TOC (namely South West trains at London Waterloo)

Most I can come up with is six at Edinburgh Waverley (Scotrail, VTEC, VTWC, Transpennine express, CrossCountry and Caledonian sleeper)

Haymarket has the same six by extension and possible Glasgow Central as well (although I'm not sure whether VTEC still has services that run to Glasgow Central, or if the Glasgow sleepers run from Queen Street as opposed to Central)

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To answer the question:

This question seems to come up every few months. Here is the most recent one I can find. Crewe and Doncaster, apparently.

Just so you know which:

Crewe:
East midlands trains
Arriva trains wales
Virgin
Cross country
Northern
Scotrail sleeper
London midland

Doncaster:
East coast
Cross country
Northern
East midlands trains
Transpennine Express
Grand central
First Hull trains

Some franchises have had name changes, but nothing material affecting those two.

Here are some of the previous threads:

• Trivia: Which station has the most TOC's serving it?
• Trivia: Most TOCs at one station?
• Trivia: Station with most TOCs?
• Trivia: Most TOCs calling at a station
• Trivia: Station with the most regular TOC's

And on related themes:

• Trivia: Stations or lines with the most TOCs passing through.
• Trivia: Fewest stations you'd need to visit to see all TOCs

Some stations have seen major changes but nothing to upset the dominance of Crewe/Doncaster. East Croydon used to have 3 calling (Southern, Thameslink, Virgin XC) and 1 passing through (Gatwick Express) but these days, under normal circumstances, only one TOC calls or passes through (GTR).

 

[Surreytraveller]

East Croydon used to have 4 - Southeastern used to call there on their Maidstone West services.

 

[fgwrich]

While Manchester Piccadilly must come close with VT, XC, EMT, FTPE, Northern Rail and ATW / 6 TOCs.

 

[greaterwest]

I'd like to be pedantic and point out that the Caledonian Sleeper stops at Doncaster when it's on diversion via the East Coast Main Line.

 

[miami]

While Manchester Piccadilly must come close with VT, XC, EMT, FTPE, Northern Rail and ATW / 6 TOCs.

And every one of those TOCs operate non-stop trains between Manchester and Stockport. That's got to be a record for a pair of stations served by the most TOCs.

I wonder how the ORCATS revenue sharing works (especially adding in the fact one end would be 'manchester stations')

 

[AlterEgo]

I'd like to be pedantic and point out that the Caledonian Sleeper stops at Doncaster when it's on diversion via the East Coast Main Line.

It isn't a passenger stop though is it?

 

[najaB]

It isn't a passenger stop though is it?

Nope, it is not - at least in my experience.

 

[Mag_seven]

Most I can come up with is six at Edinburgh Waverley (Scotrail, VTEC, VTWC, Transpennine express, CrossCountry and Caledonian sleeper)

Seven if you argue that the Fife circle loco hauled services are actually operated by DRS. (although they are advertised under the "Scotrail" banner.)

 

[GusB]

Seven if you argue that the Fife circle loco hauled services are actually operated by DRS. (although they are advertised under the "Scotrail" banner.)

Using that logic you could add GB Railfreight too.

 

[greaterwest]

It isn't a passenger stop though is it?

I'm not sure actually, will have to check next time it's on diversion!

I thought it was, in any case.

 

[Statto]

Liverpool Lime Street you have
Merseyrail at low level, although not untiil June when track renewals are completed.
Northern Rail
TPE
EMT
London Midland
Virgin Trains

 

[yorkie]

It isn't a passenger stop though is it?

It never has been.

Although I did once cheekily alight at York! But that wasn't advertised either

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

To put a slightly different angle on the theme, which stations used to have a great many more TOCs than now?

Bristol Temple Meads pre-2006;
Virgin CrossCountry
First Great Western (intercity only)
Thames Trains (Oxford-Bristol)
Wessex Trains
Wales & Borders
Southwest Trains

Nowadays FGW and Wessex are combined into 1 franchise, as are Thames but who no longer serve Bristol, neither do ATW the successor to W&B, and of course Arriva now control XC. That reduces the total from 6 to 3.

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

And another slight oddity worth pointing out is Stoke on Trent.
Core services provided by:
Virgin Trains
Arriva Cross Country
East Midlands Trains
Northern
London Midland

However Arriva Trains Wales do make a regular timetabled appearance, when the Wilmslow line is shut after 2145 for maintenance and the last Manchester-Shrewsbury service runs via Macclesfield and reverses in the bay platform at Stoke; However the call is not advertised.

 

[sk688]

Kings Cross St Pancras?

London Underground
East Midlands trains
Thameslink
Great Northern
Eurostar
Southeastern High Speed
Hull Trains
Grand Central

Quite a few, when, you look at it

 

[anti-pacer]

Kings Cross St Pancras?

London Underground
East Midlands trains
Thameslink
Great Northern
Eurostar
Southeastern High Speed
Hull Trains
Grand Central

Quite a few, when, you look at it

That's two separate stations though so you can't have it. Sorry!

Leeds has 5, which isn't bad.

VTEC
Northern
XC
TPE
EMT

 

[D365]

If we're going for any stations with five or greater, there's Peterborough:

VTEC
Great Northern
EMT
CrossCountry
Greater Anglia

 

[Liam]

Motherwell:
Scotrail
XC
VTWC
VTEC
TPE
Caledonian Sleeper

 

[anti-pacer]

If we're going for any stations with five or greater, there's Peterborough:

VTEC
Great Northern
EMT
CrossCountry
Greater Anglia

Carlisle:

VTWC
TPE
Northern
Scotrail
Caledonian Sleeper
VTEC (on diversions)

 

[xotGD]

That's two separate stations though so you can't have it. Sorry!

Leeds has 5, which isn't bad.

VTEC
Northern
XC
TPE
EMT

Plus the single Grand Central operated Bradford - Leeds on behalf of Northern.

 

[craigybagel]

And another slight oddity worth pointing out is Stoke on Trent.
Core services provided by:
Virgin Trains
Arriva Cross Country
East Midlands Trains
Northern
London Midland

However Arriva Trains Wales do make a regular timetabled appearance, when the Wilmslow line is shut after 2145 for maintenance and the last Manchester-Shrewsbury service runs via Macclesfield and reverses in the bay platform at Stoke; However the call is not advertised.

No point advertising a service on which the doors don't get opened!

 

[swt class 450]

Once the second Crossrail line opens we will have a London Euston Kings Cross St Pancras International station which will probably win for the most TOCs.

 

[221129]

Plus the single Grand Central operated Bradford - Leeds on behalf of Northern.

Which is a Northern service, so doesn't count.

 

[sk688]

That's two separate stations though so you can't have it. Sorry!

Leeds has 5, which isn't bad.

VTEC
Northern
XC
TPE
EMT

OK, just St Pancras is

EMT
Southeastern
Thameslink
London Underground
Eurostar

And just Kings Cross is

London Underground
hull trains
Grand Central
VTEC
Great Northern

So both are served by 5 operators

 

[sk688]

That's two separate stations though so you can't have it. Sorry!

Leeds has 5, which isn't bad.

VTEC
Northern
XC
TPE
EMT

Also aren't kings cross and St Pancras the same? The underground station joins them, so technically they are I guess. I thought they were the same anyway

 

[221129]

Also aren't kings cross and St Pancras the same? The underground station joins them, so technically they are I guess. I thought they were the same anyway

They are definitely not the same station.

Kings Cross
St Pancras International
& Kings Cross St Pancras are 3 different stations.

 

[D365]

They are definitely not the same station.

Kings Cross
St Pancras International
& Kings Cross St Pancras are 3 different stations.

And Euston St Pancras (Crossrail 2) will be a separate station too!

Was Kings Cross Thameslink considered part of Kings Cross or not?