Unique class workings on services

[MidnightFlyer]

Basically, I'm looking for services which are diagrammed for 'unusual' stock on that line - for example, one Edinburgh-North Berwick and return train a day is booked for 170 operation. Also, the first Cleethorpes-Barton-on-Humber and return train a day is booked for 185 working. Are there any more examples of these around (I'm sure there are!)?

Cheers

 

[MCR247]

0637 Nottingham - Bournemouth?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Was more looking for regular service with almost standard stock (except for one working) if you see what I mean - say for example if one Matlock-Nottingham was booked 158 operation (it could we be for all I know ).

 

[tom1649]

There is one evening peak return from Leeds to Skipton which is booked for a 321.

The 19.22 Manchester Piccadilly - Hazel Grove is the only service to Hazel Grove which is booked for a 323. This is also the only electric train to use the wires from Stockport to Hazel Grove at present.

 

[MCR247]

So..

Nottingham - Birmingham all booked for 170s except for the 0637?

Or have I missed it again? :?

 

[jopsuk]

Isn't there an NXEA local service out and back into Norwich in the morning (on lines that are mainly 156/153 operated) that uses an EMT 158?

 

[Ivo]

Speaking of Norwich, does that 17:02 from Liverpool Street still operate? Would that not count?

 

[MCR247]

Isn't there an NXEA local service out and back into Norwich in the morning (on lines that are mainly 156/153 operated) that uses an EMT 158?

Yeah, not sure which one

 

[150222]

Yeah, not sure which one

Great Yarmouth.

 

[tom1649]

All Derby - Crewe services are booked for a single 153 except one evening peak departure off Derby and return which is booked for a 158.

I think there is at least one peak hour departure to Gourock and another to Wemyss Bay from Glasgow Central which is booked for a 314. 314s are normally restricted to shorter runs round the Cathcart Circle etc.

 

[iphone76]

Speaking of Norwich, does that 17:02 from Liverpool Street still operate? Would that not count?

Yep. I think its a 321 service but going over to 317 operation in December.

There were also a couple 357 peak workings on the Southend Victoria line a few years ago when some of the 321s were unavailable for a while. Air conditioned luxury on NXEA!

 

[Lrd]

There is a early morning Weymouth - Waterloo booked for a 450 instead of a 444 I do believe...

 

[mallard]

All Derby - Crewe services are booked for a single 153 except one evening peak departure off Derby and return which is booked for a 158.

If that diagram calls at a Stoke in the Derby direction at 19:33, then I was on it yesterday. Wondered how often a 158 shows up along there, though it was deputising for something that's under refurbishment. Although the passengers on it could have comfortably fitted into a 153...

 

[Martin nx]

Isn't there an NXEA local service out and back into Norwich in the morning (on lines that are mainly 156/153 operated) that uses an EMT 158?

Yes there is, 06.40 ish to Lowestoft and back I believe. Will check that one though.

 

[ushawk]

The only 2 i can think of are -

The 1720 Brighton to Eastbourne which is operated by a 313, the only 313 passenger journey each weekday to go east of Lewes.

The 0714 Eastbourne to London Bridge and 1822 London Bridge to Eastbourne services are both operated by 442's.

 

[rail-britain]

I think there is at least one peak hour departure to Gourock and another to Wemyss Bay from Glasgow Central which is booked for a 314. 314s are normally restricted to shorter runs round the Cathcart Circle etc.

It's hardly unusual as this was planned for the routes to be shared between Class 314 and Class 380
More unusual would be seeing a Class 318, it used to happen

Class 314 (Mon - Fri examples)
06:32 Glasgow - Wemyss / 07:51 Wemyss - Glasgow
16:33 Glasgow - Wemyss / 17:49 Wemyss - Glasgow
17:55 Glasgow - Wemyss / 18:55 Wemyss - Glasgow

05:55 Glasgow - Gourock / 07:23 Gourock - Glasgow / 07:45 Gourock - Glasgow
14:35 Glasgow - Gourock / 15:36 Gourock - Glasgow
17:05 Glasgow - Gourock / 18:06 Gourock - Glasgow

Class 380 (4 car)
07:54 Glasgow - Cathcart
08:15 Glasgow - Cathcart

 

[NXEA!]

One off the top of my head is an NXEA service from Southend in the morning, and returning in the evening which is formed of a 315 and is an extension of a Metro service, thus it covers most if not all stations between Liverpool Street and Shenfield.

 

[Yew]

Generally Lincoln-Adwick is booked for Pacer operation. however usually once a day a 150 will turn up. although I havent seen one in a while

 

[shaun]

There is a early morning Weymouth - Waterloo booked for a 450 instead of a 444 I do believe...

Ouch!

I remember a 143 filling in for a Penzance - Paddington HST once, getting as far as Bristol. Also heard talk of a Fishguard - Paddington pacer as well although not sure how true that is.

There used to be a very early (5am?) Paddington - South Wales class 158 service if i remember correctly during the 90s?

Current workings though, there is always the Class 171 operated Kensington Olympia - Wandsworth Road.

 

[RobShipway]

There has been from time to time, a Class 450 filling in for a class 458 on the Waterloo - Reading service first thing in the Morning and in the evening time.

 

[Hydro]

Current workings though, there is always the Class 171 operated Kensington Olympia - Wandsworth Road.

That's some journey! All of what, 2 or 3 stops? Assuming it actually stops at the intermediate stations (Imperial Wharf etc)!

 

[tom1649]

It's hardly unusual as this was planned for the routes to be shared between Class 314 and Class 380
More unusual would be seeing a Class 318, it used to happen

Class 314 (Mon - Fri examples)
06:32 Glasgow - Wemyss / 07:51 Wemyss - Glasgow
16:33 Glasgow - Wemyss / 17:49 Wemyss - Glasgow
17:55 Glasgow - Wemyss / 18:55 Wemyss - Glasgow

05:55 Glasgow - Gourock / 07:23 Gourock - Glasgow / 07:45 Gourock - Glasgow
14:35 Glasgow - Gourock / 15:36 Gourock - Glasgow
17:05 Glasgow - Gourock / 18:06 Gourock - Glasgow

Class 380 (4 car)
07:54 Glasgow - Cathcart
08:15 Glasgow - Cathcart

Thanks. It is more common than I realised. I'm a little out of date as 303s were still running last time I was in Glasgow.

 

[Eagle]

I presume there's a very early morning 220-worked Birmingham to Nottingham turn, as that unit forms the return service to Bournemouth.

 

[Moog_1984]

Class 318 royal scot Euston to Glasgow, one friday in 1984!

 

[Robinson]

When I used to be Manchester-based there were 1 or 2 Alderley Edge/Macclesfield Northern services run by 142s; usually they should be 323s.
Going back a few years (pre-318 refurbishment), maybe it was more common than I realised but I would always get extremely excited if a 318 turned up at Helensburgh! My parents were none too impressed by this...

 

[jopsuk]

Class 318 royal scot Euston to Glasgow, one friday in 1984!

They weren't built until 1986...

 

[ObservationCar]

Class 318 royal scot Euston to Glasgow, one friday in 1984!

hmmmm, ok!

But the Royal Scot did start from Ayr in this period, mainly to act as a commuter from Ayr to Glasgow Central, unsure of all the calling points. It was formed with the usual mix of Mk1,2,3's and run with a 47 on front as Ayr was not electrified yet. A class 87 would release the 47 and take the train on to London Euston.

Extensions of London Trains to other parts of Scotland is often possible as the unit/train would be doing nothing else until its departure. So it would make sense if they extended a Pendolino from Central in the evening peak to Ayr and could return in the morning peak and form a London or Birmingham Train, as it wouldn't be doing anything else.

 

[Moog_1984]

oops, 1985 it was. And no it wasnt the 0700 ayr.- central "holding" for the "up" Royal scot (allegedly a service put on for SCr top brass who lived down the coast and to avoid some risk of vandalism at polmadie area)

1005 Royal scot Aug 30 1985: class 318 the whole way to deliver it to Ayr Rail Open Day, prior to the wires going up on the route

 

[ObservationCar]

1005 Royal scot Aug 30 1985: class 318 the whole way to deliver it to Ayr Rail Open Day, prior to the wires going up on the route

Was it not a class 317? I have a picture of it in an old A4 size Hard Back book called ScotRail produced around 1986-87.

 

[swt_passenger]

I presume there's a very early morning 220-worked Birmingham to Nottingham turn, as that unit forms the return service to Bournemouth.

The ECS comes straight to Nottingham from Central Rivers depot - it previously ran empty from there to Birmingham so they were able to liven it up into a Nottingham service fairly easily...

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That's some journey! All of what, 2 or 3 stops? Assuming it actually stops at the intermediate stations (Imperial Wharf etc)!

It's diagrammed for a 455 though, the 171 would theoretically be needed only if it ever ran round to Ealing Broadway - and as we know that doesn't happen...