WCML closed at Milton Keynes Central 21/8

[oversteer]

Due to a person under a train it looks like all northbound trains from Euston are cancelled apart from LM/LO stopping services as far as MKC and passengers are being sent to Marylebone/StP/KX as appropriate..

 

[Antman]

All four lines closed according to radio reports, sadly it sounds like another suicide

 

[dk1]

Some lines re-opened fairly quickly but obviously it's going to be slow going.

 

[tsr]

Looks like 1G04 0703 London Euston - Birmingham NS hit a person at approximately 0732 on the Fast Lines to the North of Milton Keynes Central. The Fasts and Platforms 4, 5 & 6 are still closed, with 1G04 stopped just after Milton Keynes North Junction.

I would expect this to be a fatality, but I have not yet had this confirmed.

 

[gordonthemoron]

good job I went to MK on the bus today then

 

[Antman]

Two lines have now been reopened

 

[The Planner]

Person walked off the end of platform 6 infront of 1G04.

 

[Kristofferson]

Lucky I wasn't going into work today, would have been sat on 2Y59 at Bletchley for an hour then turfed off at Northampton. Still, would have got some nice rail vouchers from LM's Delay Repay scheme

 

[tsr]

1G04 is now in Platform 5 and lines are open (well, apart from the Fast line which it's sitting on...).

 

[MK Tom]

Lucky I wasn't going into work today, would have been sat on 2Y59 at Bletchley for an hour then turfed off at Northampton. Still, would have got some nice rail vouchers from LM's Delay Repay scheme

Perhaps not the most sensitive thing to think under the circumstances.

Person walked off the end of platform 6 infront of 1G04.

MKC isn't doing too well fatality wise at the moment. Walked off the end of the platform though? As in up the line?

good job I went to MK on the bus today then

On the 70/150? Doesn't that cost more?

 

[Geezertronic]

Perhaps not the most sensitive thing to think under the circumstances.

Did you know the deceased? I fail to see why a light hearted comment on an internet forum is considered insensitive unless you knew the person involved

 

[gordonthemoron]

On the 70/150? Doesn't that cost more?

150, £5.50 return as opposed to £10.10 Anytime return on the train (my season has expired and I'll get a new one next week or the week after). Granted I'd have got some compo from LM but they don't reimburse lost wages

 

[MK Tom]

Did you know the deceased? I fail to see why a light hearted comment on an internet forum is considered insensitive unless you knew the person involved

No, and I didn't hugely criticise the person posting, I just said it seemed a little insensitive. This is a public forum, but I'd be a little uncomfortable if someone said something like that in private. I suppose it's just my sensibilities.

150, £5.50 return as opposed to £10.10 Anytime return on the train (my season has expired and I'll get a new one next week or the week after). Granted I'd have got some compo from LM but they don't reimburse lost wages

Ah right I wasn't thinking anytime. The off-peak with a railcard is £3.something last time I did it.

 

[Aldaniti]

Did you know the deceased? I fail to see why a light hearted comment on an internet forum is considered insensitive unless you knew the person involved

Aye, there's no such thing as society.... Still, a few vouchers keep some people happy.

 

[Cheshire Rover]

Poor driver.... Again.
Must really shake you up. Much too common this.

 

[Rugd1022]

Indeed - had a potential suicide last night at Kettering, a young lad perched on the bridge south of the station, poor kid. Thankfully the Police were on hand to deal with the situation. Was cautioned past on the Up Fast but don't as yet know what the outcome was.

Thoughts to all concerned at MK.

 

[bILLOO]

Thoughts for the family and staff involved.

But yes, poor MKC... how many this year? I've been on an LM train that hit somebody at MKC. Not nice.

 

[driver_m]

Did you know the deceased? I fail to see why a light hearted comment on an internet forum is considered insensitive unless you knew the person involved

You might not find it insensitive, but I do, not only is that one of my colleagues who has to live with what's happened today, but a family who have had everything changed irrevocably. But hey ho, it's a forum and normal sensitivities apparently don't count.

 

[TOCDriver]

I have had 2 suicides in the past, as previously mentioned, and there wasn't a thing I could have done about it. Psychologically, you have to accept that and get on with it. Sadly, it's a risk of the job these days.

 

[Welshman]

You might not find it insensitive, but I do, not only is that one of my colleagues who has to live with what's happened today, but a family who have had everything changed irrevocably. But hey ho, it's a forum and normal sensitivities apparently don't count.

Remember what John Donne says:-

"No man is an island....and any man's death diminishes me"

 

[MCW]

This year has been bloody horrid for suicides on the lines...

RIP again to the poor troubled person and I hope the Driver gets all the support he/she requires to help them through the trauma.

Isn't this like the third one at MK this year?

 

[the sniper]

Sadly, it's a risk of the job these days.

To be fair, it's almost always been a risk of the job. At least there are systems in place to support drivers nowadays.

I heard a little while back the BTP's Wales & Western area was on course for a record high year of suicides. I don't know if that's still the case but it gives an indication of how many we're talking about. Milton Keynes is covered by London North, not W&W though.

 

[Antman]

There are reports of the emegency services attending an incident at Cuffley, hopefully not another suicide

 

[Whistler40145]

Is it my imagination, or are there more suicides now than in the past or is it that these incidents are publicised a lot more?

It is another tragic loss of life, someone who probably had problems they just couldn't continue to face, so they decide to finish their life.

My condolences go the deceased persons family.

I hope the Virgin Trains driver is able to return to duty and continue in the job they enjoy.

 

[46223]

According to the Manchester Evening News there was a fatality at Greenfield, between Manchester and Huddersfield, when someone was hit by a train last night.

 

[jopsuk]

Is it my imagination, or are there more suicides now than in the past or is it that these incidents are publicised a lot more?

Last time I tried to find statistics, they suggested that the rate is pretty steady- it is publicity/perception.

(also interesting from what I remember is that despite claims that post-christmas credit cards/winter weather blues are a trigger for suicide, there's a downtick in January/February)

 

[tsr]

There are reports of the emegency services attending an incident at Cuffley, hopefully not another suicide

I don't know if it was a suicide, but I'm afraid there has been a fatality at Cuffley earlier today. A person has also been hit near Beverley, unfortunately.

 

[ainsworth74]

Last time I tried to find statistics, they suggested that the rate is pretty steady- it is publicity/perception.

According to BTP figures there were 256 fatalities on the network in 2011 and 287 in 2012. Anyone know what the number is for 2013 so far?

 

[eMeS]

Is it my imagination, or are there more suicides now than in the past ...?

...

No idea about the number in total, but over-the-counter painkillers are now sold in blister packs, and in smaller quantities than some decades ago when one could buy screw capped bottles containing a lethal quantity.

 

[gordonthemoron]

No idea about the number in total, but over-the-counter painkillers are now sold in blister packs, and in smaller quantities than some decades ago when one could buy screw capped bottles containing a lethal quantity.

and ofcouse suicidal people could never manage to pop multiple pills from a blister pack :roll: