Wellglade Group

[YX73OUB]

I believe all the routes should have announcements now since all the depots have mmcs with spares so they all have the announcements recorded.

Only vehicles with working Aesys TFT monitors will have the announcements working.

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Maybe except Kinchbus then... as the only vehicles newer than the current legal requirements are skylink Derbys and 174/5 which very occasionally go on the 9 but I am not sure on their front.

All announcements for all routes across all depots have now been recorded ready for upload.

 

[bringiton]

Only vehicles with working Aesys TFT monitors will have the announcements working.

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All announcements for all routes across all depots have now been recorded ready for upload.

Yeah, i meant all the routes have the announcements recorded, only the mmcs announcing them though

 

[Mr TrainGuy]

All announcements for all routes across all depots have now been recorded ready for upload.

That's good to hear! Does make sense to me to do them all at once rather than spreading recording time out.

 

[YX73OUB]

Yeah, i meant all the routes have the announcements recorded, only the mmcs announcing them though

Ahh yes of course, I see what you mean. Retrofitting operation will be commencing soon, hence why you'll already be seeing the Aesys controller (even on buses that'll keep mobitec destos like the nines)

 

[Mr TrainGuy]

They definitely have capability to play and display the announcements, I assume it is just getting round to recording them and getting it to work. A fair few trentbarton vehicles do display on the visual announcement screen “IBIS address” showing that they do have the capability to work.

I have been on some Volvo B7RLEs which do boot up, showing 'POLTECH' or similar. Can't precisely remember what they booted up with but it was something like that.

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Ahh yes of course, I see what you mean. Retrofitting operation will be commencing soon, hence why you'll already be seeing the Aesys controller (even on buses that'll keep mobitec destos like the nines)

Will the driver have to control both in the case of the external displays being mobitec controlled, but the internal ones are aesys? From what I've heard the aesys ones are in line (as in automatically move on stops) with the ticket machines, is that true or just something false spreading around?

 

[MCR247]

Have all the routes even had ‘new’ announcements recorded, or is it just the case of getting the systems/data transferred took a while? I’m sure the ones on the Notts Skylink and i4 are the original announcements, there was just a period after TB went down to only using Ticketer machines that the announcements and screens didn’t function

 

[Mr TrainGuy]

Have all the routes even had ‘new’ announcements recorded, or is it just the case of getting the systems/data transferred took a while? I’m sure the ones on the Notts Skylink and i4 are the original announcements, there was just a period after TB went down to only using Ticketer machines that the announcements and screens didn’t function

Possibly, rainbowone had theirs redone relatively recently to match up with the H1 and ilkeston flyer at Langley Mill. I think they want consistent, newer voices across a depot/brand. Skylink Notts and i4 have had newer announcements since their introduction, as in the init days they had pretty much one woman doing most if not all of the announcements across trentbarton land.

 

[trentbartonfan]

Possibly, rainbowone had theirs redone relatively recently to match up with the H1 and ilkeston flyer at Langley Mill. I think they want consistent, newer voices across a depot/brand. Skylink Notts and i4 have had newer announcements since their introduction, as in the init days they had pretty much one woman doing most if not all of the announcements across trentbarton land.

I definitely preferred the lady who used to do it, sounded way better and more consistent. For example, on the threes, the current announcer pronounces Arnold Road like some kind of ritual “We will soon be arriving at, Ornold Road” Assuming they are trying to make their reputation better by including more people, or something like that.

 

[YX73OUB]

Have all the routes even had ‘new’ announcements recorded, or is it just the case of getting the systems/data transferred took a while? I’m sure the ones on the Notts Skylink and i4 are the original announcements, there was just a period after TB went down to only using Ticketer machines that the announcements and screens didn’t function

All new announcements with 'new voices' well the ones at Langley Mill and Sutton definitely are.

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I have been on some Volvo B7RLEs which do boot up, showing 'POLTECH' or similar. Can't precisely remember what they booted up with but it was something like that.

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Will the driver have to control both in the case of the external displays being mobitec controlled, but the internal ones are aesys? From what I've heard the aesys ones are in line (as in automatically move on stops) with the ticket machines, is that true or just something false spreading around?

All the Aesys equipment is linked up to ticketer and needs no involvement from the driver other than setting the trip on the machine. Mobitec displays still need changing manually but the aesys displays auto change on trip start. Not in service has to be set manually on Aesys and that's why you might see some running blank on deaduns.

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What I can tell you is that there was over 20,000 lines of data just to get the threes up and running for the announcements, this shows the magnitude of the task when you consider the work the Group's commercial team has ahead of them - they all do really well indeed.

 

[Mugby]

Seems, without realising, I got a last ride on 906 a couple of Saturdays ago on the 9 from Loughborough to Nottingham. It gave a nice ride and 15 years must be considered a good service life. I don't remember the rearward facing seat over the rear wheel arches though, were they altered at some point?

On another note, will the Red Arrow Plaxton Elites be likely to attract any interest on the second hand market? The operators who usually buy ten year old coaches don't normally tend to go for anything as big and high spec as that.

 

[YX73OUB]

Seems, without realising, I got a last ride on 906 a couple of Saturdays ago on the 9 from Loughborough to Nottingham. It gave a nice ride and 15 years must be considered a good service life. I don't remember the rearward facing seat over the rear wheel arches though, were they altered at some point?

On another note, will the Red Arrow Plaxton Elites be likely to attract any interest on the second hand market? The operators who usually buy ten year old coaches don't normally tend to go for anything as big and high spec as that.

No they always had the rear facing seats you mention

 

[joieman]

I definitely preferred the lady who used to do it, sounded way better and more consistent. For example, on the threes, the current announcer pronounces Arnold Road like some kind of ritual “We will soon be arriving at, Ornold Road” Assuming they are trying to make their reputation better by including more people, or something like that.

On the Skylink just before Shelthorpe Road en route to Leicester, the announcer says, "We will then be fast to Leicester." Believe me, this bad grammar irks me!

 

[Skymonster]

Why is investment in new coaches that should be even more comfortable pleasant and quiet disappointing?

Because time and time again (in the railway at least, with maybe the exception of the Pacer - and this is predominantly a railway website) new vehicles have been less comfortable and more densely seated than the older vehicles they have replaced. If the Yutongs are better than the current Volvos in both those respects I will tip my hat to TrentBarton, but I’m currently sceptical.

 

[bringiton]

On the Skylink just before Shelthorpe Road en route to Leicester, the announcer says, "We will then be fast to Leicester." Believe me, this bad grammar irks me!

Not everyone's going to speak perfect English! Plus the amount of routes and stops that need announcements it's unsurprising theirs the odd miss pronunciation

 

[Robertj21a]

On the Skylink just before Shelthorpe Road en route to Leicester, the announcer says, "We will then be fast to Leicester." Believe me, this bad grammar irks me!

But is it bad grammar?
The Skylink from Loughborough to Leicester shows on the bus as 'Fast'.

 

[38291018]

Since the keyworth was going to 5 buses which was why they was preparing 727 till this was put on the backburner and with 101-104 now being painted does this mean if this was to go to 5 as originally planned they will need to get a spare mmc to paint such as 105?

Also 662 is currently tracking on the Mainline

 

[joieman]

503 will be transferring away from Langley Mill.

503 is now at Kinchbus, joining the other two ex-Spondon Flyer SRs as it ought to have done. It's tracking on the campus shuttle on Bustimes.

 

[Trainman40083]

Looks like former Threes Optare Versa, 825 could well be presented.for it's MOT tomorrow (Friday). If it passes, it will be a useful addition to the Notts and Derby fleet.

 

[Pigalle]

Link 1 and 2 started today and are tracking on bustimes
Just out curiosity on parts of the route where there wasn't bus stop flags/poles ect have they put any up now the route has started?

It seems they have been quite busy putting up new poles, timetables and flags. One’s appeared at the Tesco end of Haven Baulk Lane while today I passed new stops on the Link 2 at Barnes Green and Morden Green (both in Mackworth). There are also supposed to be stops (according to the Link 2 timetable) on Knightsbridge at Hanover Square and on Brackensdale Avenue at Greenland Avenue which I couldn’t see as I walked towards Kingsway.

Here’s the Morden Green stop.

 

[station_road]

It seems they have been quite busy putting up new poles, timetables and flags. One’s appeared at the Tesco end of Haven Baulk Lane while today I passed new stops on the Link 2 at Barnes Green and Morden Green (both in Mackworth). There are also supposed to be stops (according to the Link 2 timetable) on Knightsbridge at Hanover Square and on Brackensdale Avenue at Greenland Avenue which I couldn’t see as I walked towards Kingsway.

Here’s the Morden Green stop.

I did a nearly full trip on the link 2 yesterday, stop flags and timetables have been put on existing poles (which includes the ones on Havenbaulk Lane, previously served by the Notts and Derby 35, and around Mackworth on stops previously served by Arriva).

Where there is no pole, they haven't put anything up and my driver refused to stop anywhere with no marked stop - which included most of Station Road and then all the way to Henley Green, parts of Mackworth and Kingsway. I think new poles are the responsibility of the city council, while flags and timetables are the bus companies.

 

[busspotter1]

These are diesel coaches rather than electric

Ah yes I have just realised that bus drivers are a very reliable source of information. I shall verify before I post from now on.

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Ah yes the speedy council, I wonder how long it will take them.

responsibility of the city council

 

[Pigalle]

I did a nearly full trip on the link 2 yesterday, stop flags and timetables have been put on existing poles (which includes the ones on Havenbaulk Lane, previously served by the Notts and Derby 35, and around Mackworth on stops previously served by Arriva).

Where there is no pole, they haven't put anything up and my driver refused to stop anywhere with no marked stop - which included most of Station Road and then all the way to Henley Green, parts of Mackworth and Kingsway. I think new poles are the responsibility of the city council, while flags and timetables are the bus companies.

It’s a strange approach to building patronage for a new service. While they wait for poles to be installed you would have thought they would place temporary bus stop signs at those stops with poles. Is there a reason they can’t do this?

 

[Trainman40083]

It’s a strange approach to building patronage for a new service. While they wait for poles to be installed you would have thought they would place temporary bus stop signs at those stops with poles. Is there a reason they can’t do this?

I am sure they will address it asap. Is there that many spare temporary bus stops? If there isn't, maybe hail and ride.

 

[38291018]

This may be the last day of 906 as it's MOT runs out today. It's currently tracking on the 9.

Just out curiosity since painting have they actually used 73 for red arrow? Also what happened to coach 74 I heard it went for painting but since then it's been removed of bustimes

Thinking of 906 are they not euro 6 because correct me if I'm wrong but the citaros was brought in for the skylink when Leicester was wanting a emission zone so wouldn't it make more sence for when they still had all the citaros to go to TM for sheffeld clean zone and replace the older scanias ect and that sole OmniLink. Ik they can't now unless they sent just that 1 they have operational but when the whole fleet was operational I think that would made more sence than scrapping some

 

[Trainman40083]

This may be the last day of 906 as it's MOT runs out today. It's currently tracking on the 9.

Just out curiosity since painting have they actually used 73 for red arrow? Also what happened to coach 74 I heard it went for painting but since then it's been removed of bustimes

Thinking of 906 are they not euro 6 because correct me if I'm wrong but the citaros was brought in for the skylink when Leicester was wanting a emission zone so wouldn't it make more sence for when they still had all the citaros to go to TM for sheffeld clean zone and replace the older scanias ect and that sole OmniLink. Ik they can't now unless they sent just that 1 they have operational but when the whole fleet was operational I think that would made more sence than scrapping some

Right. 73 has not worked since it was painted. Has no MOT, and now waiting for its second replacement wheelchair ramp, something I suspect is not available in a short lead time. Coach 74 now has a MOT and went for painting in Stoke, about a couple of weeks ago. That suggests it might end service first.... But at this rate, maybe the new Yutongs will, first. As for Sheffield, I am wondering if the 726 to 734 batch, plus 662/663 might go. That might be dependent upon 1) the entry into service of 101 to 104 on Keyworths, and any alternative buses on X38. It seems weeks ago, I had a report of ex Ilkeston Flyer Volvo 720 being painted. Now Mango 723 has replaced Solo SR 503 at Langley Mill (which has gone to Kinchbus).

 

[38291018]

X38 branded 742 is tracking on the sixes

 

[Np13]

X38 branded 742 is tracking on the sixes

Yes it was, however it has now come off without a replacement

 

[joieman]

This may be the last day of 906 as it's MOT runs out today. It's currently tracking on the 9.

Thinking of 906 are they not euro 6 because correct me if I'm wrong but the citaros was brought in for the skylink when Leicester was wanting a emission zone so wouldn't it make more sence for when they still had all the citaros to go to TM for sheffeld clean zone and replace the older scanias ect and that sole OmniLink. Ik they can't now unless they sent just that 1 they have operational but when the whole fleet was operational I think that would made more sence than scrapping some

I think 906 is simply going because it's a non-standard vehicle type in the fleet, being the only one left.

 

[43055]

I am sure they will address it asap. Is there that many spare temporary bus stops? If there isn't, maybe hail and ride.

Whenever I have seen temporary stops in Derby it is normally been South Yorkshire branded!

 

[38291018]

Just been reading somethings online about the new coaches for redarrow and the flixbus partnership.

Does this mean there's 10 Yutong GT12 for the readarrow and a further batch of 9 for the flixbus operations?