What if herd immunity can't be reached with a vaccine, as too many refuse to have it?

Scrotnig

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Therefore, anything that even looks like a requirement to be vaccinated is going to get the government into trouble without a further Act of Parliament.
I'm pretty certain there will be no mandatory vaccination in the U.K.
 
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No, there won’t.

There are so many legal, moral, ethical problems with this proposal I don’t even know how it could even be contemplated.
However it could be possible to have a vaccine or a 14 day (at the individuals expense) quarantine (probably at a designated location rather than in a home) as a condition of entry to the UK without hitting quite so many of those problems.

If you don't wish to have the vaccine then it makes it harder to travel, but not impossible. There's a lot less reasons why that would become a moral issue.

The majority of the population would see it as stopping new cases coming into the UK and so would support it, those who didn't always have the option of not going abroad, especially given that many other countries would likely have a similar rule.

For anyone traveling to a high risk areas they would certainly wish to have the vaccine anyway (in the same way as other holiday vaccines).

Such a rule would likely help to increase the uptake.

However I would guess that to get to >80% uptake would be fairly easy to achieve, as there's likely to be a fairly big proportion of people who would like things to return fully to normal. As well as many businesses applying pressure to their staff to get a vaccine (although still they'd have to be careful to not to discriminate, but a company wide communication with wording like "until we can return to the way things were before we can not be sure that all jobs will be secure" would probably be enough to focus enough minds to also help uptake).
 

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However it could be possible to have a vaccine or a 14 day (at the individuals expense) quarantine (probably at a designated location rather than in a home) as a condition of entry to the UK without hitting quite so many of those problems.

If you don't wish to have the vaccine then it makes it harder to travel, but not impossible. There's a lot less reasons why that would become a moral issue.
Assuming a successful vaccine is available I would expect it will be like that, yes - basically how it works with Yellow Fever in countries affected by that. No requirement inside the country, but required to cross borders, effectively.
 

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Assuming a successful vaccine is available I would expect it will be like that, yes - basically how it works with Yellow Fever in countries affected by that. No requirement inside the country, but required to cross borders, effectively.
Indeed, I imagine something like that is most likely to happen, if we find a vaccine.
 

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Talking of "rushed vaccines", I'd be interested to know how much testing the vaccine mentioned here has had:

Russian health authorities are preparing to start a mass vaccination campaign against coronavirus in October, the health minister has said.

Russian media quoted Mikhail Murashko as saying that doctors and teachers would be the first to receive the vaccine.

Reuters, citing anonymous sources, said Russia's first potential vaccine would be approved by regulators this month.

However, some experts are concerned at Russia's fast-track approach.
 

Jonny

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Talking of "rushed vaccines", I'd be interested to know how much testing the vaccine mentioned here has had:
Russian health authorities are preparing to start a mass vaccination campaign against coronavirus in October, the health minister has said.

Russian media quoted Mikhail Murashko as saying that doctors and teachers would be the first to receive the vaccine.

Reuters, citing anonymous sources, said Russia's first potential vaccine would be approved by regulators this month.

However, some experts are concerned at Russia's fast-track approach.
I wonder if it is one that they have gained access to another vaccine by industrial espionage. It could well be the Oxford vaccine, as the timing of masks in shops in England relative to the Oxford immugenicity test results does look suspicious (even if there is nothing there, it is still a correlation).
 

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