What is the furthest distance between two consecutive bus stops on a bus route in London?

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To clarify, I'm attempting to find out which two bus stops, that are next to each other on any given route, are the furthest apart from one another.

I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was in an express route such as the X26, which has hardly any bus stops despite covering so much ground.

Also honourable mention to the 132 which has stops 'Wricklemarsh Road' and 'Millenium Leisure Park East' well over 2km from each other.
 
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If your going on technicalities it has to be Imber church served by route 23a

The stop has a roundel, appears on ibus and served by an ibus bus route 23a


Don't know how many kms it is from Slough bus station (which I assume would be the nearest other london buses stop.)

Edit Google maps reckons 132kms
 
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If your going on technicalities it has to be Imber church served by route 23a

The stop has a roundel, appears on ibus and served by an ibus bus route 23a


Don't know how many kms it is from Slough bus station (which I assume would be the nearest other london buses stop.)

Edit Google maps reckons 132kms
It's not in London and there isnt a bus route between Imber and Slough.
 

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There’s 4.4 miles between Stockley Road and Heathrow Central Bus Station on the A10. As it runs non-stop on the M4 there are no other physical stops along this part of its route
 

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Historically the 399 or 722 had a long stretch between the last stop in Grays Thurrock and the next in Dartford.
I would need to check on the last stop north of the Thames to see whether that was in London but Dartford definitely isn't.
 

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Essex and Kent.
Thank you. I guessed Essex (but was unaware of its actual route) and knew Kent. I seem to remember such routes had their origins with a 1963 route that used buses equipped to take bikes. Green buses so they may have been Country District.
 

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Someone has done the analysis - https://www.michalpaszkiewicz.co.uk/blog/busdistributions/index.html

Which finds the X26 with 7530km between stops is the longest distance, followed by the B13 which was/is? a hail and ride service and then the 607 express. I think the X68 as pointed out by Contains Nuts has not been included in the analysis
Parts are, quite a few of the B routes have hail and ride sections. Its not a very long route and the middle part, through Blendon and Blackfen, won't be, its a main road (A something). The end, through New Eltham, is a candidate.

It's an interesting analysis though.
 

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If we’re including hail and ride sections I would suggest the R5 which travels for some 6.2 miles between fixed stops at Knockholt Pound and Green St Green, Queen’s Head, and the opposite way on the R10.
 

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If we’re including hail and ride sections I would suggest the R5 which travels for some 6.2 miles between fixed stops at Knockholt Pound and Green St Green, Queen’s Head, and the opposite way on the R10.
From the top of Rushmore Hill to Scott's Lodge it is in Kent (Knockholt's claim to fame is that it is the highest village in Kent).
 

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From the top of Rushmore Hill to Scott's Lodge it is in Kent (Knockholt's claim to fame is that it is the highest village in Kent).
Of course it is. Should have remembered that since I drove that route every day for the best part of 3 years
 

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Both Google Maps and TfL show stops in Cudham and various other places. Are these routes which have had their Hail and Ride status revoked?

In Central London, there is around 1700 metres between 2 stops on one route....
The 521 between Waterloo Bridge (South Bank) and Holborn Station - the bus operates via the Aldwych Underpass.
 

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Both Google Maps and TfL show stops in Cudham and various other places. Are these routes which have had their Hail and Ride status revoked?
No, definitely still hail and ride sections.
 

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Of course it is. Should have remembered that since I drove that route every day for the best part of 3 years
Since Knockholt's bus services available to the public are now directed towards Orpington, this is to be perhaps an understandable miss-memory. Not helped as Knockholt station does appear to be in London (but nowhere near Knockholt).

Go Coach's service 3 appears to have disappeared from their timetable list, thus severing the links with Sevenoaks.
Both Google Maps and TfL show stops in Cudham and various other places. Are these routes which have had their Hail and Ride status revoked?
Maybe they are used by school services (of which there will be several)?
 

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969 between Roehampton Vale Asda & Roehampton Lane/Danebury Avenue is a pretty good one. It uses the A3 and Roehampton Lane, whilst the other routes in that direction turn off the A3 into a small slip road and go via the Alton Estate before emerging out on Roehampton Lane. Google Maps puts it at 1.4 miles (2253 metres)
 

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The short-lived NX1 night route from Victoria to Gillingham only stopped at New Cross Gate between Trafalgar Square and Welling. I think journeys in the reverse direction only ran between Gillingham and Lewisham.
 

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Both Google Maps and TfL show stops in Cudham and various other places. Are these routes which have had their Hail and Ride status revoked?
I wonder is this a bodge to make journey planners (which don't cooperate well with hail and ride) both show the routes correctly and return them for journeys to/from the hail and ride section.

Take for example the hail and ride section between Southgate and Winchmore Hill on the route W9.

The route shown by Google Maps bears no resemblance to its actual route, and it suggests walking for a journey from Southgate to most of the hail-and-ride section. A series of fake "stops" called Hail and Ride along the real route every 50 or 100 yards would remedy this.
 

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I wonder is this a bodge to make journey planners (which don't cooperate well with hail and ride) both show the routes correctly and return them for journeys to/from the hail and ride section.

Take for example the hail and ride section between Southgate and Winchmore Hill on the route W9.

The route shown by Google Maps bears no resemblance to its actual route, and it suggests walking for a journey from Southgate to most of the hail-and-ride section. A series of fake "stops" called Hail and Ride along the real route every 50 or 100 yards would remedy this.

I agree- I think they are pretty much "virtual" stops. There are timetable panels on what could be described as "mini-stops" - truncated at about a metre high. I guess it allows TfL to provide roadside information.
 

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From the top of Rushmore Hill to Scott's Lodge it is in Kent (Knockholt's claim to fame is that it is the highest village in Kent).
It's also Kents newest village having only joined (from Greater London) in 1969.

Since Knockholt's bus services available to the public are now directed towards Orpington, this is to be perhaps an understandable miss-memory. Not helped as Knockholt station does appear to be in London (but nowhere near Knockholt).
It's Essex's fault, Knockholt station was originally called Halstead but was renamed to avoid confusion with Halstead Essex.
 

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It's Essex's fault, Knockholt station was originally called Halstead but was renamed to avoid confusion with Halstead Essex.
Interesting. I thought it might be a reluctance to name it after the two closest communities to the station - Pratt's Bottom and Badgers Mount!
Why did that one run?
Only ran on Friday and Saturday night, to get people home after a night out in town (much cheaper than a taxi). There may also have been some traffic in the reverse direction - those needing to get into town early. I guess they hoped it would make money. It stopped in quite a few places after Welling. Only lasted three years. Replacement now confined to London, where it serves more of Bexley Borough. More details at the dependable London Bus Route NX1 (londonbuses.co.uk)
 

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