backontrack
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The real crunch poll.
If anyone's asking about the 180s, they're in with the DMU poll.
If anyone's asking about the 180s, they're in with the DMU poll.
And why are Class 253 / 254 DMUs in the wrong poll?
Where is the Class 37 option?
And why are Class 253 / 254 DMUs in the wrong poll?
Because they are not DMU's. What do you think the initials stand for?Where is the Class 37 option?
And why are Class 253 / 254 DMUs in the wrong poll?
Exactly, HSTs were DEMUs(!!), hence the class 25x series being used for them! (251s were the Pullmans and the 252 was the HST prototype) Loco rotation from coaching stock was too much to keep up with so became classified as loco and coaches in the early/mid 80s, the vehicle number 43xxx was used despite the fact it was the same as the class 43 Warships, as not only were they all out of service but also all cut in the early 70sBecause they are not DMU's. What do you think the initials stand for?
To me they are not, as they don't have a facility for working in Multiple. Diesel trainsets, definitely. The only way in which "multiple" applies is that both power cars work off one set of controls, but that doesn't make them DMUs. Voyagers definitely are DMUs, and French TGVs are EMUs, maybe Pendolinos are too...Exactly, HSTs were DEMUs(!!),
Hear hear - Succinctly put.The noises from the Valenta engine, Napier turbocharger and Marston cooler group were a symphony of power.
The 68s do seem to be worthy successors to the previous generations of oft vaunted passenger locomotives - They definitely sound and accelerate the way that they should.Currently it has to be a class 68 with a set of coaching stock. I miss the Deltics plus coaches as well as the plentiful 47's and electric loco's with coaches.