That would be my position if I ever got taken on by a TOC. I've been with the company I work for for 20 years next month, and I would be able to leave with full pension in another 20 (by which time I'd be 61). I think there would be quite a few there who would be shocked if I were to hand my notice in, and there will be two senior managers who will (hopefully) soon be shocked by being asked to provide references for me, both of whom expect me to remain with the company and achieve further promotions within it. Although I still love my job, there have been a few reasons of late to give me serious doubts as to whether the branch will still exist in 12 months' time, or if it did, as to whether my current job would still exist, or at least pay the relatively decent salary it does at the moment. Would mean a hefty pay cut if I did get a trainee driver position, not ideal when I've been struggling to keep myself afloat with mortgage/kids etc over the last few years, but that would eventually become a raise if I then made it to fully qualified, and as anyone who knows me will testify, I'm not frightened of a bit of overtime...