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Wigan-Bolton electrification. Construction updates only please

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Presumably this stops any fanciful ideas about Metrolink one day coming through along the old fast line track bed!
Foam concrete would presumably not put up much of an obstacle should they wish to reopen the arch.
 
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Presumably this stops any fanciful ideas about Metrolink one day coming through along the old fast line track bed!
Not really as that was how Farnworth tunnel was enlarges by filling with foam concrete then breaking it out with Filly
 

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After works:
This shows the pipe bridge is being removed too.

Its all pre-cast concrete they are using so works could be done in only a couple of weeks.
Indeed, but given that's a Form 001 drawing we're a long way from construction. 12 months perhaps. Surprising is the lack of any track, OLE or ancillary civils detail on the drawing.

It also seems that Atkins have picked up the detailed design work.
 

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They wouldnt have to provide that level of trackside detail to the Council, they are only required to courtesy inform them of the bridge change while everything on the railway alignment itself is exempt from the local planning process.
 

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They wouldnt have to provide that level of trackside detail to the Council, they are only required to courtesy inform them of the bridge change while everything on the railway alignment itself is exempt from the local planning process.
That is the proposed general arrangement drawing, Form 001/Approval in Principle. It is an engineering drawing and not bespoke for the council. The lack of any other disciplines detailed is unusual.
Yes that's it
 

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Curious as to why there's two Double Arrow logos next to Hindley Station's name in one of the newspaper photos...
 

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Curious as to why there's two Double Arrow logos next to Hindley Station's name in one of the newspaper photos...
Well the image is from Google Street View, so I'd guess it's an error stitching the photos together.
 

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Public drop in meeting called in Hindley on December 6th.
 

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Tonight's public drop in meeting in Hindley was lively. We were presented with a fait acompli of what is going to happen. The bridge replacement contractor was there and there was a representative of Network Rail. We were shocked to discover that Ladies Lane will be shut from March 13th through to July 14th, some 126 days (we were previously told 4 to 6 weeks). That will create chaos inHimdley and the two long diversionary routes. Wigan council (no representation at the meeting apart from 2 local councillors who knew nothing) has specified that the bridge will reopen with exactly the same unsafe pavement dimensions and chicaine as is there now. Lists and disabled access will be provided at a much later date by TfGM.
So no real consultation and many missed opportunities to make access safer and residents' lives easier by better coordination.
Underwhelmed to say the least.
 

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Tonight's public drop in meeting in Hindley was lively. We were presented with a fait acompli of what is going to happen. The bridge replacement contractor was there and there was a representative of Network Rail. We were shocked to discover that Ladies Lane will be shut from March 13th through to July 14th, some 126 days (we were previously told 4 to 6 weeks). That will create chaos inHimdley and the two long diversionary routes. Wigan council (no representation at the meeting apart from 2 local councillors who knew nothing) has specified that the bridge will reopen with exactly the same unsafe pavement dimensions and chicaine as is there now. Lists and disabled access will be provided at a much later date by TfGM.
So no real consultation and many missed opportunities to make access safer and residents' lives easier by better coordination.
Underwhelmed to say the least.
Whilst it's a shame to hear, I suspect this represents the financial constraints that public infrastructure is now operating under.
 

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Ladies Lane Closure and Railway Bridge Rebuild. During public discussions regarding the rebuilding of the Railway Bridge on Ladies HRA requested that the footpaths on either side were widened for pedestrian safety as one side of the bridge has a very narrow footpath, too narrow to accommodate a wheelchair, 1200mm is recommended. It seems that Network Rail will not take advantage of the situation to rectify this danger to pedestrians. It seems budget restraints are more important than public safety! Wigan Council have issued the following statement: “The works to Hindley Station Bridge (0169) are being carried out by the owners of the bridge Network Rail, the works involve the demolition of one of the arches and the partial filling of the other arch, Wigan Council did ask if the bridge could be widened, but were informed by Network Rail that this was not possible on the budget available, even if it was possible, it would only result in the one span being widened over a short section of the bridge, which would not provide any benefit.
At the public drop in meeting in November we were asked to submit written comments which they promised to reply to.
No one has received a response yet.
The Northern app is now showing bus connections from Hindley from March 13th so they appear to be sticking to the schedule I posted earlier.
Given the gridlock and chaos this week when Cross Street was closed in Hindley, it looks like we are in for major disruption.
 

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It's not up to NR to fund improvements to the bridge for either pedestrians or motor vehicles. If the local authority want a better bridge, they will have to pay for it. But it's now too late to redesign the project.
 

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Er... the Equality Act 2010 requires that reasonable adjustments are required for disabled people, although the wheelchair gauge is normally 850mm.

NR should take advice, before m'learned friends find out.

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Er... the Equality Act 2010 requires that reasonable adjustments are required for disabled people, although the wheelchair gauge is normally 850mm.

NR should take advice, before m'learned friends find out.

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The Guidance to the Equality Act requires that whenever work affecting public access is carried out the result must be at least as good for all of the protected groups and if it is a new structure it must conform to present standards.
The Act has provisions for a single member of a protected group to initiate court proceedings.
It appears that Network Rail have an unlimited budget to contest such proceedings. So it is probably better to pursue community pressure, including using politicians at all levels.
 

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You may remember the bridge at Tadcaster partially collapsing in 2015 due to flooding. At that time there where very narrow pavements over the bridge. Due to public demand the bridge was rebuilt with much wider pavements. This was achieved by cantilevering the concrete slabs used for providing the new road surface over the side of the bridge. It seemed quite easy and economical to do. I don't know if the same can't be done with this bridge.
 

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