Xenophon PCDGS
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In a recent telephone conversation, I was told that Microsoft will not be ending security updates for Windows 7 until 14th January 2020. Has any other website member heard a different date to that, please.
If the specs of your computer are above the minimum, then it works like a dream.as an OS it seems pretty stable and efficient.
Windows 10 is still available for free to users of assistive technology (e.g. screen readers) with no actual check that they actually use them. Make of that what you will. This upgrade path is going to be removed soon though (before the end of the year if memory serves correctly).Win10 isn't free any longer, although there may be less-than-honest ways to still get it.
Indeed, Microsoft will provide security updates for five years after the end of mainstream support.After further reading it would appear that free security updates are provided as extended support.
Yesterday was 'Patch Tuesday' so there will have been a number of updates gone out overnight. I'm sure the F8 startup option should still work in Windows 10
It doesn't. From Windows help page https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/12376/windows-10-start-your-pc-in-safe-mode:Yesterday was 'Patch Tuesday' so there will have been a number of updates gone out overnight. I'm sure the F8 startup option should still work in Windows 10
Restart your PC. When you get to the sign-in screen, hold the Shift key down while you select Power
> Restart.
[*]After your PC restarts to the Choose an option screen, select Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup Settings > Restart.
[*]After your PC restarts, you'll see a list of options. Select 4 or F4 to start your PC in Safe Mode. Or if you'll need to use the Internet, select 5 or F5 for Safe Mode with Networking.[/QUOTE
No it won't. You're looking at 2025 until the end of extended support but that's only the original version - if you install feature updates then you get continued support.If you took the plunge and moved to 10, then in a few years support for that will end.
That's news to me (thanks), but won't "windows" simply be replaced by a different OS - let's face it there's Linux, so having a brand-new OS provided by Microsoft isn't out of the question.Unless and until they change their mind, Win10 is the "last" version of Windows. It comes with free updates "for life" (whatever that means) as long as you keep it up to date. There have already been four (I think) major updates, each of which is effectively a fresh installation. The present version is 1709.
I moved on because lots of webpages and other programs don't work very well on XP and especially as we are being told that it is no longer secure. I understand that the security vulnerability is down to the fact that XP uses an outdated communications protocol, or something like that. The old laptop is creaking too, so I'm keeping it for specialist non-comunicating tasks like spreadsheets, presentations etc.If you took the plunge and moved to 10... Still want XP back....
Given that it was the fifth attempt, it's not surprising they finally got it right.It just..worked, and worked well. Though during the early 2000s I had the 'privilege' of supporting 500 systems running it while it was a new OS and I still have the mental scars!
It doesn't. From Windows help page https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/12376/windows-10-start-your-pc-in-safe-mode:
Unless and until they change their mind, Win10 is the "last" version of Windows. It comes with free updates "for life" (whatever that means) as long as you keep it up to date. There have already been four (I think) major updates, each of which is effectively a fresh installation. The present version is 1709.
That's news to me (thanks), but won't "windows" simply be replaced by a different OS - let's face it there's Linux, so having a brand-new OS provided by Microsoft isn't out of the question.
We've had "Windows", I suppose next is "Doors". Doors Vista....hmmm.
XP is as dead as a doornail, or should be. The fact that it still runs in some UK police forces (and on 5% of globally tracked Windows systems as a whole) is quite telling though. It just..worked, and worked well. Though during the early 2000s I had the 'privilege' of supporting 500 systems running it while it was a new OS and I still have the mental scars!
Is it generally accepted that Windows 7 was a great improvement over Windows Vista, but Windows 8 was not an overwhelming success when introduced to follow on from Windows 7?
Unlike Star Trek, avoid the even numbers (Windows 10 is actually 9).Windows had a habit of usually alternating between "solid" and "mediocre" releases. See 98 > ME, XP > Vista, 7 >8.
(Windows 10 is actually 9).
If you count the NT code-base (the Consumer code base was dropped after Me), ignoring MS's internal code numbers and looking at the major changes to the code then you've got NT 4 (4), 2000 (5), XP (6), Vista (7), 7 (7.5), 8 /8.1 (8), and 10 (9).Windows 10 is actually the 11th version of Windows, not the 9th. After Windows 1, 2 and 3 there was Windows 95 (4th version), 98 (5th version), ME (6th version), XP (7th version), Vista (8th version), 7 (9th version), 8 (10th version) then 10 (11th version).
Given that it was the fifth attempt, it's not surprising they finally got it right.
I'd tend to agree with that. 8.1 was a partial attempt at undoing the damage and wasn't terrible; 10 from a functional/UI point of view is closer to what one might call "classic windows" - XP through to 7 - than 8 was, and is (IMO) all the better for it.Is it generally accepted that Windows 7 was a great improvement over Windows Vista, but Windows 8 was not an overwhelming success when introduced to follow on from Windows 7?