Bletchleyite
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That's very close to being the 350/2 interim livery.
Even better!How about an NSE inspired one?
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I preferred the previous to be honest!
Shall I submit the NSE inspired LNR one to WMT to see what they could've had?I preferred the previous to be honest!
Yes it is what's the best one I've made on here in your opinion?The BR blue thing is interesting, given that the 350/1s started their life in reverse BR blue (grey with a blue window stripe and doors).
Yes it is what's the best one I've made on here in your opinion?
Definitely and I will be very interested to hear of their response!Shall I submit the NSE inspired LNR one to WMT to see what they could've had?
Most definitely, door highlighting does result in some compromise in design eg: the BR Blue 313201 with it's all grey doors instad of the original br scheme.The "NSE inspired" one with LNR colours I reckon. Horizontal elements in train liveries look nicer than vertical ones in my book; door highlighting is a "necessary evil" in terms of appearance and so I wouldn't add more.
I was only joking you know! Although I'm tempted to send it though.Definitely and I will be very interested to hear of their response!
What, like this?The BR blue thing is interesting, given that the 350/1s started their life in reverse BR blue (grey with a blue window stripe and doors).
Thanks for letting me know! They're not so bad, I think it was a 350/2 I caught a 319 yesterday to Watford Junction, one of the stopping service, and that was even grubbier! Traction motor thrash and loud hum as it tries to draw power reminded me of the 317's I was surprised that there's quite a few of the 319's about. There was a curious white one with blue doors that I saw pull into platform 10 at Watford Junction yesterday...The 350/1s are almost fully refurbished now see this thread for more on this - https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-350-1-refurbishment.178890/
350/2s (the scruffy 350's that need a wash! ) are going to be off leased and replaced by 730s in 2021/22.
350/3s I believe are having a refurb later on down the line
350/4s are also having a refurb at some point
350/3s & /4's are unlikely to be done until at least all of the /1s are done.
As were no longer in Europe and silly rules like painting doors daft colours no longer apply, why not.. aaaa... aaaahh
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They have - they’re adding a thick black line around the edge of the doors. This fulfils the PRM TSI requirement for marking the door.Interestingly, though, DB still haven't got contrasting doors on IC and ICE stock.
319's are awesome. Yes they're grubby, but I love the loud motor trash and hum they sound great. LNWR has 15 319's so they're quite common. 350's sound great from outside but dead silent inside which is boring. The 'curious' white one in WFJ plat 10 is I believe one that had been taken off the Abbey line for the weekly unit swap.Thanks for letting me know! They're not so bad, I think it was a 350/2 I caught a 319 yesterday to Watford Junction, one of the stopping service, and that was even grubbier! Traction motor thrash and loud hum as it tries to draw power reminded me of the 317's I was surprised that there's quite a few of the 319's about. There was a curious white one with blue doors that I saw pull into platform 10 at Watford Junction yesterday...
Not sure about dead silent inside as the Class 350s have very noisy air con compared to the XC 170s and EMR 222s I travel on. Also last year had the pleasure of a Class 350/2 with 2+3 seating on a very busy Liverpool-Birmingham service one Sunday lunchtime. Sunday service is hourly on Sundays compared to half hourly in the week.319's are awesome. Yes they're grubby, but I love the loud motor trash and hum they sound great. LNWR has 15 319's so they're quite common. 350's sound great from outside but dead silent inside which is boring. The 'curious' white one in WFJ plat 10 is I believe one that had been taken off the Abbey line for the weekly unit swap.
319's are awesome.
And I hope 'pleasure' was in jest!Not sure about dead silent inside as the Class 350s have very noisy air con compared to the XC 170s and EMR 222s I travel on. Also last year had the pleasure of a Class 350/2 with 2+3 seating on a very busy Liverpool-Birmingham service one Sunday lunchtime. Sunday service is hourly on Sundays compared to half hourly in the week.
Yes I may have been a little too excited about a 319 but 350's are broing, what more can I say. If the 319s were nicely kept & maintained, I think people wouldn't mind them too much.I think your definition of 'awesome' isn't that of most people.......
And I hope 'pleasure' was in jest!
Can I ask where you got those diagrams from please?Most definitely, door highlighting does result in some compromise in design eg: the BR Blue 313201 with it's all grey doors instad of the original br scheme.
I was only joking you know! Although I'm tempted to send it though.
What, like this?
Made this quickly so it's not 100% accurate but it's a good representation.
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I made it but as the one you saw isn't fully complete or accurate it's not one I would publish as it's not up to my normal standard of accurracy or detail. I'm in the process of making a few diagrams at the moment. I'm also going to be busy with college this week so won't have much time to do work on them.Can I ask where you got those diagrams from please?
Alright, no problemI made it but as the one you saw isn't fully complete or accurate it's not one I would publish as it's not up to my normal standard of accurracy or detail. I'm in the process of making a few diagrams at the moment. I'm also going to be busy with college this week so won't have much time to do work on them.
Nevermind, found it on wikipediaI made it but as the one you saw isn't fully complete or accurate it's not one I would publish as it's not up to my normal standard of accurracy or detail. I'm in the process of making a few diagrams at the moment. I'm also going to be busy with college this week so won't have much time to do work on them.
Agreed, they're ok on a quiet-ish or short trip. I groan in normal times if I get one southbound from Nuneaton or Rugby though.If they're lightly loaded (up to about 50% loading) I don't mind the /2s too much TBH, in particular legroom in the facing bays is excellent. Though they really do need coffee shelves.
I thought they weren't cleared North of Northampton.Agreed, they're ok on a quiet-ish or short trip. I groan in normal times if I get one southbound from Nuneaton or Rugby though.
I thought they weren't cleared North of Northampton.
Oh sorry, yes, I thought the 319s were still the ones being discussed, missed the reference to the 350/2s.319s aren't, 350/2s are.