WMT Trainee Senior Conductors - Multiple Locations (26/10/21)

[JoeEcco]

West Midlands are recruiting for trainee senior conductors.

Can anyone advise me on all the basics to this job at Wolverhampton; such as how many days each week, the shift patterns, rosters and routes etc.

Thank you.

Coventry Talent Pool - https://apply.abellio.com/vacancies/7491/trainee_senior_conductor_coventry_talent_pool_2022/?d=5

Northampton / Bletchley Talent Pool - https://apply.abellio.com/vacancies...or_northamptonbletchley_talent_pool_2022/?d=5

Wolverhampton Talent Pool - https://apply.abellio.com/vacancies...conductor_wolverhampton_talent_pool_2022/?d=5

Worcester Talent Pool - https://apply.abellio.com/vacancies/7170/trainee_senior_conductor_worcester_talent_pool_2022/?d=5

 

[12guard4]

4 days, week of earlies week of lates, long weekend every 3 weeks.
Routes are
Wsl/Wvh
Xcity
Rugeley
Shrewsbury
Liverpool

 

[185]

Week 1-2-3 old BR roster common at several TOCs... 5-day weekend every three weeks.

MO	TU	off	off	FR	SA	x
MO	TU	WE	TH	off	off	off
off	off	WE	TH	FR	SA	x

& back to week 1.

Excellent for planning your time off and doing swaps, finding someone on the same rest days but opposite line of work to go for permanent earlies or lates.

You can work out where you will be months ahead, ideal for planning weekends away, hols, footie etc.

x - Sundays. At WM, for new starters, Sundays are mandatory, but if you don't want to work them, covered if there are enough volunteers.

 

[Rhymnosauras]

West Midlands are recruiting for trainee senior conductors.

Can anyone advise me on all the basics to this job at Wolverhampton; such as how many days each week, the shift patterns, rosters and routes etc.

Thank you

Hi, is there a new vacancy?

 

[the sniper]

Hi, is there a new vacancy?

It'd probably be easier to check their website then type that question and await an answer...

 

[Horizon22]

Hi, is there a new vacancy?

Have added the links to the vacancies for the talent pools in the 1st post.

 

[Rhymnosauras]

It'd probably be easier to check their website then type that question and await an answer...

Haha, fair point

 

[JoeEcco]

Thank you all that is great.
Do you have any info regarding earliest book in and latest book off for Wolverhampton?
Also what T&Cs do they have such as Rest Day Payments, Sunday pay etc. etc.

Now TFW are recruiting for Shrewsbury - is that very similar with 4 day week and rosters etc.

Thanks a lot all.

4 days, week of earlies week of lates, long weekend every 3 weeks.
Routes are
Wsl/Wvh
Xcity
Rugeley
Shrewsbury
Liverpool

Week 1-2-3 old BR roster common at several TOCs... 5-day weekend every three weeks.

MO	TU	off	off	FR	SA	x
MO	TU	WE	TH	off	off	off
off	off	WE	TH	FR	SA	x

& back to week 1.

Excellent for planning your time off and doing swaps, finding someone on the same rest days but opposite line of work to go for permanent earlies or lates.

You can work out where you will be months ahead, ideal for planning weekends away, hols, footie etc.

x - Sundays. At WM, for new starters, Sundays are mandatory, but if you don't want to work them, covered if there are enough volunteers.

Thank you both.
Do WMR pay 4 weekly or monthly.
Also, how long are you on training salary for. When do you get full pay?

 

[185]

4 weekly so 13 pay packets a year. There are still those staff who tell the missus they are paid monthly to hide the 13th from them.

Training salary 12 months at -25% / £25k ish until full wage (for WMT ex Central Guards). Different conditions apply at Northampton Bletchley & Watford ex Silverlink depots - full wage when qualified after 10 weeks ish)

Sunday's are usually good money.

 

[G_for_Gnome]

Mon-Sat Wolverhampton earliest book on Mon-Sat is around 0430am, latest book off between 0100 and 0130am

Sundays 0715 earliest book on / 0100 book off but depends on engineering work.

Sundays - unless it is your long weekend or your switch from late week to early week, you are likely to have a rostered Sunday. You are committed to these and there aren’t always enough volunteers to cover it, if you desperately need to get out of doing one.

Traction and routes, for now at least..

170
New St to Shrewsbury

323
Cross City

350
Wolves to Walsall via New St, New St to Rugeley,
New St to Birmingham Int’l,
New St to Liverpool

 

[Horizon22]

Mon-Sat Wolverhampton earliest book on Mon-Sat is around 0430am, latest book off between 0100 and 0130am

Sundays 0715 earliest book on / 0100 book off but depends on engineering work.

Sundays - unless it is your long weekend or your switch from late week to early week, you are likely to have a rostered Sunday. You are committed to these and there aren’t always enough volunteers to cover it, if you desperately need to get out of doing one.

Traction and routes, for now at least..

170
New St to Shrewsbury

323
Cross City

350
Wolves to Walsall via New St, New St to Rugeley,
New St to Birmingham Int’l,
New St to Liverpool

I've since added this to this thread as Wolverhampton was missing so thanks for the information!

 

[JoeEcco]

4 weekly so 13 pay packets a year. There are still those staff who tell the missus they are paid monthly to hide the 13th from them.

Training salary 12 months at -25% / £25k ish until full wage (for WMT ex Central Guards). Different conditions apply at Northampton Bletchley & Watford ex Silverlink depots - full wage when qualified after 10 weeks ish)

Sunday's are usually good money.

Thank you. 12 months is much longer than I thought given the training period is less.

 

[craigybagel]

Now TFW are recruiting for Shrewsbury - is that very similar with 4 day week and rosters etc.

Similar set up with TFW in terms of 4 day week and rosters. Higher basic salary and it's only 6 months rather than a year before you get the full whack. Also there's arguably less chance of DOO coming in at TFW than at WMR.

 

[JoeEcco]

Similar set up with TFW in terms of 4 day week and rosters. Higher basic salary and it's only 6 months rather than a year before you get the full whack. Also there's arguably less chance of DOO coming in at TFW than at WMR.

Thank you mate.
What is the full salary for TFW do you know?
min your opinion, which would you prefer and why?
i Live in Wolves so WMR easier commute wise but open to hear about other pros and cons.

 

[craigybagel]

Thank you mate.
What is the full salary for TFW do you know?
min your opinion, which would you prefer and why?
i Live in Wolves so WMR easier commute wise but open to hear about other pros and cons.

Full salary is ~ £35000 at TfW.

I don't think it would be fair for me to compare the two TOCs too much since I've only ever worked for one of them, but TfW Shrewsbury is one of the best depots to be a guard at anywhere in the country IMO. Varied and often scenic route card, pretty decent T&C's, a good deal of job security, and the shifts aren't too bad either.

That said, commuting and shift work never make for great company. I don't know if WMR provide staff parking at Wolves but TfW no longer provide it for new starters at Shrewsbury (there's a Pay and Display near by that I think offers season tickets that people have been using instead). And you're earliest start would be around 04:30 and latest finish after 01:00 so you'd be making that drive quite a bit. Though there are several guards and drivers there who live in Wolves and the Black Country and they seem to cope ok.

One thing I can say from experience - apply for both jobs and see what happens. Either job is better than neither!

 

[JoeEcco]

Full salary is ~ £35000 at TfW.

I don't think it would be fair for me to compare the two TOCs too much since I've only ever worked for one of them, but TfW Shrewsbury is one of the best depots to be a guard at anywhere in the country IMO. Varied and often scenic route card, pretty decent T&C's, a good deal of job security, and the shifts aren't too bad either.

That said, commuting and shift work never make for great company. I don't know if WMR provide staff parking at Wolves but TfW no longer provide it for new starters at Shrewsbury (there's a Pay and Display near by that I think offers season tickets that people have been using instead). And you're earliest start would be around 04:30 and latest finish after 01:00 so you'd be making that drive quite a bit. Though there are several guards and drivers there who live in Wolves and the Black Country and they seem to cope ok.

One thing I can say from experience - apply for both jobs and see what happens. Either job is better than neither!

That’s really kind of you. Thanks a lot for that insight

 

[185]

TfW no longer provide it for new starters at Shrewsbury

Considering the ample amount of car park space next to 7B junction & space to expand it, that's quite unfair, imo.

 

[craigybagel]

That’s really kind of you. Thanks a lot for that insight

No problem.

Considering the ample amount of car park space next to 7B junction & space to expand it, that's quite unfair, imo.

It's a difficult one. The yard belongs to WMR and as their depot has also been expanding over the last few years they've needed the space for their own. Existing TfW were allowed to keep parking there, it's just the ones who joined after a certain point who are not eligible. Free staff parking isn't included in TfW contacts and there are several depots where it's not provided.