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  1. Jordan Adam

    Jordan Adam Established Member

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    Hahaha! I laughed there, honestly i wouldn't have taken it as a threat anyway :lol:.

    I live in Aberdeen. It tends to be the OAPs but i've heard plenty of people complain about the ride quality on certain bus types. Streetlites being the main culprit followed by Stagecoach E350Hs and E400s, although with the latter it's down to poor maintenance rather than vehicle type.

    So they do, my mistake...
     
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    Ride quality, or the ride the driver is producing? Easily confused, one is due to the vehicle, the other simply a driver who doesn't give a s*** and routinely does things like heavy brake use ending in recoil, which is really uncomfortable for passengers, especially the older ones.
     
  3. Jordan Adam

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    Certainly as far as Streetlites are concerned i can tell you for a fact most cases are not down to the driver. The Streetlite can't get round a flat roundabout without giving whiplash and trying to stop one smoothly is near impossible.
     
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    Is the batch of Streetdecks for Arriva Yorkshire the last ever built from Wrightbus? (for now)
     
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    Really? I saw this comment and coincidentally had a day out today on a selection of Eclipses and Streetdecks (plus a few ADLs) and decided to listen in (in the interests of research). Didn't hear any mutterings about the ride quality or anything about the journey itself.

    People have much more important things to worry about and, in fact, those very comments that johnny chips mentioned WERE the very things that were mentioned. The five 13/14 year olds swearing on the top deck - check. The 1218 departure not turning up - check.

    This is spot on. The e200 isn't a great vehicle and is comparable (in terms of ride quality) to the Streetlite DF. What the big difference is that the e200mmc has moved the bar so much higher.

    Been on plenty of Streetlites and, yes, they're lightweight. The ride and build quality is comparable to an e200 - not a driver so won't pretend to make out I know what they're like. Main issues seem to be jerky gear changes (but this is a consequence of the gearbox not being properly set up - some examples are poor, others are fine) and, for some reason, the trim around the emergency exit is a constant rattle point when idling.
     
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    Yes! Opposite ends of the UK :p. People up here are far more vocal i guess.
     
  7. TheGrandWazoo

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    This was in Leeds - Yorkshire people being known for their reticence and not being opinionated.
     
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    On Twitter this week from a service that's just been changed to StreetLites...
    "Good news! Passengers on services 11 & 12 are set to benefit this month with a bus upgrade providing improved travelling comfort together with lower engine emissions."

    "Not yesterday we didn't, I've never been thrown around so much on a bus. Either the driver was terrible or the bus is."

    And that's from a genuine passenger, not a spotter.
     
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    I wonder if in a few years' time we will be able to see a Streetlite/Deck preserved in a bus museum or at a rally? Anyone know if a B7L has been preserved?
     
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    A number of B7Ls have been saved and i'm sure Streetlites/decks will be one day too o_O.
     
  11. TheGrandWazoo

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    I don't doubt you but as I said, the people I heard today weren't talking about the build quality and braking over the Streetdeck. They were talking about the 5 swearing, scuffling kids at the back of the top deck and the fact the driver stopped, had a look, and then did nothing.

    You're right. These are always part of someone's childhood or formative years. Remember how hated Leyland Nationals were.... plenty are now preserved. How about the van derived minibuses - surely they'd never been preserved but no, you can find Transits, Ivecos, Mercs. I mean, there's even Dodge S56s preserved and they were the most god awful machines ever turfed out onto bus operation. AEC Merlins, Guy Wulfrunians - they all get saved.
     
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    Spot on, it's always good to have warnings from the past ;). Sarcasm aside it would be a shame if some of the buses on the road today weren't saved, at the end of the day they're just as relevant when it comes to the history of transport in the UK as any bus from 15 years ago and beyond was, just imagine what it would be like if no Nationals were saved (as hated as they were). Although i must confess the "this bus is too young to be preserved" brigade do make me chuckle, they seem to appear all over social media whenever a bus built post 1985 is saved!
     
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    Absolutely - they are a relevant part of transport history and, for pity's sake, there has to be more to bus preservation that just Routemasters and Western National VRs (good as they are).
     
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    I'd have to disagree about the Renault/Dodge vehicles. I built a business around secondhand S56 and S75s, some of which were Wrightbus bodied. Perfectly okay as long as they had Allison auto boxes and not Torqflyte or manual boxes. Cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, as opposed to the equivalent Mercedes, and yes i did drive them as well...
     
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    To be fair, Lothian has a B7RLE "heritage" vehicle which is 112 (04 plate), yet still uses B7RLE 04 plates on some routes. I understand the need to preserve some but I think 04 is too new to be called historic, not to new to be preserved. However, when i asked what they classed as heritage, it's a bus type that has left active service.

    I also think it's an age thing - as we get older, we see vehicles join the preserved fleet and cry because we're getting older. Note to self, never go to a museum lol.
     
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    United Auto had 45 of the wretched things with Alexander bodies. They were ponderous, had auto boxes, and there were sighs of relief when a substantial number were offloaded early to West Riding. The only thing they had going for them was that they were larger than the Mercs capacity.

    The Merc 608s were a hardier machine though, at first, they got through brake linings and clutches esp in hillier spots. However, that was reduced by fitting retarders.
     
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    I would think they would have had Torqflyte 3 speed auto's, which were both serene in pace and the torque converters weak for that engine size and power output! Easily burnt out unless driven gently!

     
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    Lowland acquired one of the Renaults at least from Eastern Scottish and used it on the then 128 (now part of Prentice 111.)
    On the climb up from Ballencrieff up to Garleton,you felt you should get off and give it a push from the back
     
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    Not looking good for the future of Wrightbbus. It seems Jo Bamford has been unable to reach a deal and the company is expected to enter liquidation tomorrow. Whilst all is not 100% clear yet, I would say that Jeff Wright has a lot to answer for surrounding the failure of this deal.

    From BBC News:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49996934

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    Jeff Wright clearly wants to ensure that he still has some money coming in from the site, I'd assume that it's quite hard to replace the funding that has been going into the church.
     
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    When it was initially put up for sale, surely the advisors would have mentioned the foreseeable problem with the land not being owned putting off buyers, and something should have been done about it then.
     
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    There is clearly a lot more to this than any of us know and presumably it will come out later in the wash. A prime example is the First Leeds order that has not been delivered. We have had various opinions as to what has happened regarding the order but no facts. Unfortunately the future looks very bleak
     
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    Are the Arriva Yorkshire StreetDecks the last Wrightbus products to enter service?
     
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    Breaking News on the BBC News website: suggests a deal is back on.

    The Jo Bamford referred to is a member of the 'JCB' Bamford family, so as an individual he is not short of a bob or two to pay the asking price. One of his other companies bought Woodford Airfield (British Aerospace) with the intention of redeveloping it.
     
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    Here it is https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50013959
     
  26. ChrisPJ

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    Looks like good news!! I wonder what dirt they had on Jeff Wright in order for him to change his mind so much and so quickly.
     
  27. Baxenden Bank

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    The Lord works in mysterious ways.
     
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    Well Ian Paisley jnr was involved
     
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    I'd forgotten these dreadful things, worst of the era of van derived minibuses...couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding especially with a few onboard, damp and musty smell with mould growing in the window frames and worst of all (from a drivers perspective) the constant vibration through the steering wheel akin to holding onto a pneumatic drill!!
     
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    Good news, I hope the deal can be done quickly and people re-employed.
     
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