XC services allocated for Double Voyagers

[Mag_seven]

Are any of the first three services x Plymouth this week booked to be double Voyagers due to the decreased frequencies (i.e. one train an hour) on the Bristol - Birmingham corridor?

 

[221129]

Are any of the first three services x Plymouth this week booked to be double Voyagers due to the decreased frequencies (i.e. one train an hour) on the Bristol - Birmingham corridor?

No. Sorry.

 

[Jamesrob637]

09:27 from Manchester to (I presume) Bournemouth was a double over Stockport Viaduct today, though not sure about the whole journey?

 

[sufian123]

09:27 from Manchester to (I presume) Bournemouth was a double over Stockport Viaduct today, though not sure about the whole journey?

Yes it was 0731 bhm to man then 0927 man to Bournemouth then 1445 Bournemouth to Manchester. I think it does 2005 man to Birmingham

 

[swt_passenger]

Yes it was 0731 bhm to man then 0927 man to Bournemouth then 1445 Bournemouth to Manchester. I think it does 2005 man to Birmingham

Has been an almost guaranteed double set from Bournemouth on a Friday afternoon for some years, IIRC. Did it once run Monday as well?
(The abandoned 2015 consultation intended advancing it to earlier departure times, 0727 from Manchester and 1245 from Bournemouth, and was possibly making it run every day, but that’s probably overtaken by events.)
The 1445 off Bournemouth (I wrongly thought 1345) was being discussed back in 2012 here: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/xc-double-voyagers.75269/#post-1278445

 

[sufian123]

Has been an almost guaranteed double set from Bournemouth on a Friday afternoon for some years, IIRC. Did it once run Monday as well?
(The abandoned 2015 consultation intended advancing it to an earlier departure time from Manchester and Bournemouth, and was possibly making it run every day, but that’s probably overtaken by events.)
The 1445 off Bournemouth (I wrongly thought 1345) was being discussed back in 2012 here: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/xc-double-voyagers.75269/#post-1278445

Fridays I know for sure last four years has been. @221129 can confirm about Monday’s in the past .

 

[nicolaboo]

Yes it was 0731 bhm to man then 0927 man to Bournemouth then 1445 Bournemouth to Manchester. I think it does 2005 man to Birmingham

I was at Man Picc Friday evening at around 19:40 and 220024 and 220017 were linked together, somewhere around Plat4/5, but I didn't catch which service it was on. Likely the Brum one then.

 

[ValleyLines142]

I was at Man Picc Friday evening at around 19:40 and 220024 and 220017 were linked together, somewhere around Plat4/5, but I didn't catch which service it was on. Likely the Brum one then.

Think that's normally the 2007 from Manchester, which has one set locked OOU.

 

[sufian123]

Think that's normally the 2007 from Manchester, which has one set locked OOU.

Actually both set is in service. Your on about 2127 man-bhm which has the ex 1545 Bournemouth-man set locked. The ex arrival from Exeter set is in service. Monday to Fridays only.

 

[sufian123]

I was at Man Picc Friday evening at around 19:40 and 220024 and 220017 were linked together, somewhere around Plat4/5, but I didn't catch which service it was on. Likely the Brum one then.

Yes 2005 man-bhm service. Arrives Birmingham at 2133 then couples with 2129 from Newcastle. Then ECS to Central rivers.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Actually both set is in service. Your on about 2127 man-bhm which has the ex 1545 Bournemouth-man set locked. The ex arrival from Exeter set is in service. Monday to Fridays only.

True.

 

[superalbs]

Not quite allocated for a double, but a triple XC set was sighted at Exeter recently (13 car).

 

[sufian123]

Not quite allocated for a double, but a triple XC set was sighted at Exeter recently (13 car).

Was it in service? As triple usually ecs movement.

 

[superalbs]

Was it in service? As triple usually ecs movement.

ECS indeed, lights were off from what I can see in the video.

Triple has been used on VTWC though, has it not?

 

[Mag_seven]

Last Thursday 8th Nov the 1S37 06.45 Bristol TM - Edinburgh (via Stroud) was a double voyager as far as Birmingham New St. Not sure if this was a one off as the following day, Friday 9th, it was a single.

 

[Kite159]

ECS indeed, lights were off from what I can see in the video.

Triple has been used on VTWC though, has it not?

They have been used on the blockade buster services a few years ago when Watford was closed

 

[sufian123]

ECS indeed, lights were off from what I can see in the video.

Triple has been used on VTWC though, has it not?

Shanks

 

[221129]

Last Thursday 8th Nov the 1S37 06.45 Bristol TM - Edinburgh (via Stroud) was a double voyager as far as Birmingham New St. Not sure if this was a one off as the following day, Friday 9th, it was a single.

Its booked during the Filton Blockade

 

[43055]

Hi,
Does anyone know if there's any double sets (or even HST's) booked to run on Sundays 18th and 25th. I am travelling from Derby to Swindon/Bristol (if Bristol is still closed) in the afternoon/evening. Many thanks

 

[221129]

Hi,
Does anyone know if there's any double sets (or even HST's) booked to run on Sundays 18th and 25th. I am travelling from Derby to Swindon/Bristol (if Bristol is still closed) in the afternoon/evening. Many thanks

Yes. Not sure which ones they are off the top of my head though.

 

[43055]

Yes. Not sure which ones they are off the top of my head though.

No problem. If you get a chance to find out it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[sufian123]

Hi,
Does anyone know if there's any double sets (or even HST's) booked to run on Sundays 18th and 25th. I am travelling from Derby to Swindon/Bristol (if Bristol is still closed) in the afternoon/evening. Many thanks

Hi hsts should be 0810 Leeds to Plymouth and 0900 Leeds to Plymouth. Not sure on the double voyagers.

 

[pt_mad]

Hi

Monday-Thursday

0703 Birmingham-Edinburgh
1307 Edinburgh-Plymouth (train splits at Gloucester)
1125 Plymouth-Dundee (couples at Bristol, and splits at (Newcastle)

Fridays

07:31 Birmingham-Manchester via Stoke
09:27 Manchester-Bournemouth
1445 Bournemouth-Manchester
2007 Manchester to Birmingham.
Same as above.
Note 1307 Edinburgh to ply is not a HST anymore over the summer period.

Quite surprised these are the only booked double sets. Not many really. How many extra sets would the franchise need (rough estimate) to run a decent amount of double sets through the core at peak times?

 

[221129]

Quite surprised these are the only booked double sets. Not many really. How many extra sets would the franchise need (rough estimate) to run a decent amount of double sets through the core at peak times?

That's an old post and is out of date now

 

[ValleyLines142]

Not quite allocated for a double, but a triple XC set was sighted at Exeter recently (13 car).

Any pictures?

 

[221129]

Any pictures?

It was at 2am so I doubt it... there was a video on Facebook though.

 

[221129]

Was it in service? As triple usually ecs movement.

ECS due to the sea wall being shut to all traffic so Voyagers and an HST were dumped in Riverside Yard to free the platforms up.

 

[sufian123]

Quite surprised these are the only booked double sets. Not many really. How many extra sets would the franchise need (rough estimate) to run a decent amount of double sets through the core at peak times?

Indeed it has changed. In May timetable. There’s are correct for weekdays diagram without engineering works.

0703 bhm-Edinburgh Monday to Thursday is still a double. 1307 Edinburgh to Plymouth far as Gloucester a couple.

0645 Newcastle to Plymouth Monday’s only. 1425 Plymouth-Edinburgh as far as Newcastle

0645 York to Plymouth 1325 Plymouth to Edinburgh far as Newcastle Tuesday to Fridays.

0900 Glasgow to Penzance as far as Plymouth. Fridays only.

1125 Plymouth-Dundee is a couple from Bristol to Newcastle. Monday to Saturdays.

 

[sufian123]

ECS due to the sea wall being shut to all traffic so Voyagers and an HST were dumped in Riverside Yard to free the platforms up.

thanks. Usually you do see it coming out for the depot in a triple sets.

 

[sufian123]

Quite surprised these are the only booked double sets. Not many really. How many extra sets would the franchise need (rough estimate) to run a decent amount of double sets through the core at peak times?

0731 bhm-Manchester 0927 man-bmh 1445 bmh-man and 2005 man-bhm is a double voyagers. Fridays only.