Yesterday's train data

[VideozVideoz]

I want to check the punctuality of some trains from yesterday. RealTimeTrains website isn't showing me the info for yesterday, is there any other site I can use? Thanks

 

[telstarbox]

I want to check the punctuality of some trains from yesterday. RealTimeTrains website isn't showing me the info for yesterday, is there any other site I can use? Thanks

Which trains are you after?

 

[VideozVideoz]

The ones I need to know are:

17:05 MAN-MAC
17:17 MAN-MAC
17:35 MAN-MAC
17:18 MAN-NMC
17:51 MAN-BUX

Thanks!

 

[yorkie]

17:05 MAN-MAC started from MAC
17:17 MAN-MAC arrived 9 late at MAC
17:35 MAN-MAC cancelled
17:18 MAN-NMC arrived 9 late at NMC
17:51 MAN-BUX arrived 12 late at BUX

 

[Goatboy]

17:05 MAN-MAC started from MAC

Is that a posh description for 'Cancelled'?

 

[Tomnick]

17:05 MAN-MAC: Started from Macclesfield 27 late - looks like inward stock heavily delayed by something around Eastleigh.
17:17 MAN-MAC: 4 late from Picc, increasing to 9 late at Macclesfield as a consequence of the above
17:35 MAN-MAC: Cancelled throughout (inward working cancelled)
17:18 MAN-NMC: 8 late start from Picc, 10 late at NMC
17:51 MAN-BUX: 6 late start from Picc, 14 late at BUX

Edit: beaten to it! Discrepancy between Yorkie's reply and mine is probably down to difference between WTT and PTT times.

 

[VideozVideoz]

Thanks for your help! 'Started' from MAC is a good one

 

[Goatboy]

17:05 MAN-MAC: Started from Macclesfield 27 late - looks like inward stock heavily delayed by something around Eastleigh

Thats interesting - how could something at Eastleigh have caused that?

 

[Tomnick]

Thats interesting - how could something at Eastleigh have caused that?

The unit to form the service in question was coming from Bournemouth. The delay to the New Mills train was put down to a failed freight at Burton-on-Trent earlier in the day though!

 

[VideozVideoz]

The delay to the New Mills train was put down to a failed freight at Burton-on-Trent earlier in the day though!

How is this possible? The New Mills train wouldn't have gone anywhere near Burton on the inward journey.

Also, can someone tell me why the 16:51 MAN-BUX was late leaving? I thought the inbound service arrived at MAN at 16:23 ex Buxton 15:23 (approx).

 

[Tomnick]

It's a good example of how a single incident can ultimately affect trains all over the country! In this case, it was probably delayed XC trains heading north affecting TPE services, one of which managed to knock the train in question for a few minutes.

1651 to Buxton was delayed awaiting incoming traincrew off another service.

 

[yorkie]

Is that a posh description for 'Cancelled'?

Cancelled between MAN & MAC, the OP wasn't using the final destination of trains in all cases, but putting the station he wanted to know the arrival times for.

And yes, the delays I quoted for are based on the public delay rather than the Working TimeTable (WTT) delay.

I advise anyone who wants actual train times to look it up, or request it be looked up, on the day itself if at all possible as the data is deleted from various systems after a little while. Of course the TOCs themselves can look it up many weeks later.

 

[VideozVideoz]

I advise anyone who wants actual train times to look it up, or request it be looked up, on the day itself if at all possible as the data is deleted from various systems after a little while. Of course the TOCs themselves can look it up many weeks later.

I normally do this same day but it had passed 12am when i got home so couldn't check my usual resources!

 

[Goatboy]

The unit to form the service in question was coming from Bournemouth. The delay to the New Mills train was put down to a failed freight at Burton-on-Trent earlier in the day though!

Cancelled between MAN & MAC, the OP wasn't using the final destination of trains in all cases, but putting the station he wanted to know the arrival times for.

I was stupidly assuming it was some sort of local Northern service from Man to Mac

 

[455driver]

It's a good example of how a single incident can ultimately affect trains all over the country! In this case, it was probably delayed XC trains heading north affecting TPE services, one of which managed to knock the train in question for a few minutes.

Its a good example of how delay attribution can be used to shove delay minutes onto something that happened hundreds of miles and hours earlier and actually had no effect on the the services in question.

I once had a train fault and delayed a XC service 3 minutes at Basingstoke and they ended up trying to put some Scotrail delays onto it saying it had caused delays at New Street which affected Anglo-Scottish trains which in turn affected Scotrail trains!

 

[Tomnick]

Its a good example of how delay attribution can be used to shove delay minutes onto something that happened hundreds of miles and hours earlier and actually had no effect on the the services in question.

I once had a train fault and delayed a XC service 3 minutes at Basingstoke and they ended up trying to put some Scotrail delays onto it saying it had caused delays at New Street which affected Anglo-Scottish trains which in turn affected Scotrail trains!

Well yes, plenty of that happens, I know! Although there is a tendency to stick minutes onto a nice juicy incident rather than looking at what actually happened (strange how they sometimes work out what happened, in an AB area with only TRUST to guide them, without asking anyone involved!), it's still true that late long distance trains running well out of path can soon start putting time into all sorts of other trains in all sorts of places!

 

[VideozVideoz]

Yesterday (I know i'm a day late again!) there was a train that looked like it was running ECS from BUX-MAN. I saw it at FNV at around 20:15 but couldn't find any details of it on any of my normal resources. Can anyone tell me what this train was and how fast it did the journey end-to-end?

 

[Freightmaster]

Yesterday (I know i'm a day late again!) there was a train that looked like it was running ECS from BUX-MAN. I saw it at FNV at around 20:15 but couldn't find any details of it on any of my normal resources. Can anyone tell me what this train was and how fast it did the journey end-to-end?

Here you go: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O55746/2013/01/30/advanced

MARK

 

[VideozVideoz]

Brilliant! Thanks! I did search for it on realtimetrains but it didn't appear... Do we know why it went express all the way?

 

[dave_wm]

It looks like the originally planned passenger service (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y32164/2013/01/30/advanced) was cancelled due to the late arrival of an inbound service, so they ran the train empty stock back to Manchester ready to form its next working. Why they did this instead of running late I'm afraid I don't know.

 

[Tom]

Brilliant! Thanks! I did search for it on realtimetrains but it didn't appear...

You have 26 hours to get anything from Realtime Trains before it drops off the location pages at the moment - so it should have appeared fine for you (although it won't now). The schedules are stored on the server for 21 days.

 

[VideozVideoz]

Hmmm im not sure why it didn't appear when I looked. I saw the trains before and after but not the one I was looking for!