Hydro
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I take it nobody has seen the state of 66019 with the C word sprayed over the front and sides
Fitters obviously don't like the driver
I take it nobody has seen the state of 66019 with the C word sprayed over the front and sides
Security has improved at lots of depots these days - the majority of depots and carriage sidings are now fenced off, have CCTV cameras and are floodlit at light.
I take it nobody has seen the state of 66019 with the C word sprayed over the front and sides, its in service like that still, which is a bit out of order, seen it 3 times this week like that! vid below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdIXd7m9PLk
I take it nobody has seen the state of 66019 with the C word sprayed over the front and sides, its in service like that still, which is a bit out of order, seen it 3 times this week like that!
Well that may be so, but clearly it isn't all up to the job as we still see such widespread problems CCTV in particular is an issue, simply having a camera on top of a pole isn't a deterrant any more if these boneheads know full well that there isn't anybody on the other end monitoring it. Grainy recorded footage of a few herberts in hoodies and masks won't generally lead to any prosecutions. The only way any of this lot ever seem to get caught out is when the BTP set up stings, which are time consuming and pricey. If TOCs deployed proper pro-active security staff at thier locations, they'd find it much easier to nobble these people and eventually have far fewer problems.
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If it is seriously running around with that daubed all over it I'm suprised DB haven't got in trouble tbh, that's very offensive and clearly the operator's responsibility to clean it off. If you walked around town with that on your t-shirt I'd imagine you'd be having a word with a PC or two! DB can't be that desperate for serivceable 66's surely, they're sending half of them abroad these days!
66019 is preassigned into Margam for cleaning, and is en-route there now (6X75 ex-Dee March), although was assigend to arrive at 21:00 last night.
The policy of most TOCs and FOCs is to remove the graffiti as soon as possible, in order that the tags etc are not displayed for days, as this is what the 'artists' want
I couldn't imagine a shiny SWT unit pulling up to the blocks at Waterloo full of city commuter types with C*** scrawled all over the front of it!
Indeed, but in the case of something which is so very offensive, one would hope that the operator concerned would at the very least cover it up, rather than allow the vehicle concerned to continue to appear 'in public' in that state. After all, an accusation could reasonably be made that DB are in fact guilty of outraging public decency when that loco trundles through a busy station. Obviously cleaning can't be instant, but it isn't beyond possibility to spray over it, or even obscure it with some hazard tape or somesuch! I couldn't imagine a shiny SWT unit pulling up to the blocks at Waterloo full of city commuter types with C*** scrawled all over the front of it!
Especially not when they're clearly all inside it!
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Especially not when they're clearly all inside it!
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Perhaps they could designate one 'graffiti train' where graffiti artists could legitimately repaint the unit, perhaps give new artists a chance every few weeks so more can be involved. There seems to be evidence to suggest that where legalised graffiti is allowed, illegal attacks fall because the culprits have respect for the art and the company involved. Not exactly a perfect solution, but just a thought anyway!
Perhaps LUL Could sacrifice some of their C Stock to do a simular thing in say east london? Might then reduce the amount of idiotic and dangerous tresspassing all for their ' tagging ' then?!
The unit was 350127. I travelled on it on Wednesday morning, it operated from Northampton to Euston passing through Milton Keynes at 0717.
The "new livery" had fully covered 2 out of the 4 carriages on one side.
Saw it parked at Bletchley on Wednesday evening, but havent seen it since
I agree with the others here who've mentioned security; it is known and accepted that trains will always be targets for these morons, so why on earth dont TOCs take more care of their assets?! Now matter how remote or exposed a stabling location might be - athough generally this sort of stuff happens in fairly busy depot locations! - there is absolutely no excuse for not having a couple of security chaps (plus dogs!) keeping an eye on some CCTV, and a decent high security fence. The unfortunate fact appears to be that some operators prefer to spend little and hope for the best, at which point it becomes difficult to muster a great deal of sympathy
It entered service like that?
Strung up? Locked up? Keys thrown away? Gulags? Celebrating some of the more vile aspects of the Soviet Union? What a profoundly illiberal bunch many of you are.
Ah, So thats NX's reason for painting their trains white...Perhaps is a blank canvas and their deliberately waiting for someone to come along a design / paint them a catchy new livery!
It had to, otherwise LM would have been fined for short forms etc.
321s aren't signed to Birmingham, so you could encounter some problems diagramming wise(?)
They could use them on tring/northampton terminators? anyway i thought they were occasionally used on b'ham international to walsall services?
They could use them on tring/northampton terminators? anyway i thought they were occasionally used on b'ham international to walsall services?
321s aren't allowed beyond Rugby now. There are 3 sets of 321 in use any one day (when they work). One set does the Abbey line all day, the other 2 are joined up and do a Bletchley - Northampton empty move, Northampton - Euston calling most shacks arriving Euston at just after 8am, empty to Camden Road, then work the 1824 (I think) back to MK, calling most shacks, then empty to Bletchley.
Bloody waste, get rid of all of them!
And yes, the LM diagrams are all interchanged now, the only fixed ones are the Crewe diagrams and even they don't work half the time. The set off Crewe (meant to be a /1) arrive into P11 at xx49, sits for 57 mins before going back out again. Invariably it all goes wrong.