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With 91114 broken and another broken Class 91 will East Coast have to hire two Class 90s to cover for them?
They have always got spare sets hidden away somewhere so i doubt it.
From past knowledge they have hired in HST sets from East Midland Trains.
Its a shame MK4's arent HST compatiable, as there are a few extra power cars around
Are there enough spare MK3's around to form one or two sets to use with the Class 90's? Could East Coast hire a few MK3 sets to solve the problem?
ainsworth74 said:But in any case, all this ignores one issue that the ECML is a 125mph railway. Running 110mph services in the paths that East Coast has will almost certainly cause issues. Also I'd rather like some sort of source for the information that two 91s have been laid low.
GNER used to use a 90 on one of the Leeds diagrams regularly- If my memory serves me rightly I think one was even painted into GNER livery at the time, and it ran with a Mk4 set.
It is a pity the Flying Badger is beyond use now.....
It would avoid the need for retimetabling.
With 91114 broken and another broken Class 91 will East Coast have to hire two Class 90s to cover for them?
Our class 90 team at Crown Point are doing a fantastic job. Sure they could spare one for a price
I do remember a FGW HST being hired to East Coast not too long ago?
If the problem is with the 91s why would you need Mk3s? The Mk4s are perfectly compatible with class 90s.
ainsworth74 said:But in any case, all this ignores one issue that the ECML is a 125mph railway. Running 110mph services in the paths that East Coast has will almost certainly cause issues. Also I'd rather like some sort of source for the information that two 91s have been laid low.
To add more capacity to East Coast's fleet. Quite a few HST digagrams are entirely under the wires. Hiring MK3 sets with Class 90's would solve that issue.
The Class 90's have better acceleration than the Class 91's. If they put them on the Newark/York services (some of which are currently operated by a HST!), then it shouldn't be much of an issue. Besides, First Capital Connect's Class 317's and 365's have a top speed of 100mph, as do FTPE's Class 185's. And then you've got the 60 and 75mph freights. It can't be too much of an issue, can it?
Also, weren't the Eurostar sets limited to 110, when they were used on the ECML?
It is a pity the Flying Badger is beyond use now.....
It would avoid the need for retimetabling.
Quite a few HST digagrams are entirely under the wires. Hiring MK3 sets with Class 90's would solve that issue
89001 was great at accelerate it didn't matter in the early days that it didn't have top speed of 140mph, because it start to stop with the accelerate would keep it on time for any class 91 timing. But with only a line speed of 125mph now that dosen't matter now.
Speaking of hiring in a HST, when I pulled into Leeds station just before 0650 this morning, there was an EC HST sat in platform 9 with an EMT power car on the front.
And the ECML did used to be a 140mph line and used to use flashing greens to allow drivers to run at this speed. These signals are still in ise but now mean the same as a steady green aspect.
I believe the speed was reduced to 125mph after Hatfield.
And the ECML did used to be a 140mph line and used to use flashing greens to allow drivers to run at this speed. These signals are still in ise but now mean the same as a steady green aspect.
I believe the speed was reduced to 125mph after Hatfield.