Anyone come across this before? At a bus stop with multiple buses I was in a queue. A bus that wasnt mind arrived and a guy behind me said he was getting this one so I stepped back. He went to the front of the queue but did not get on the bus and instead stood at the front of the queue!
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SS4
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That ones has yet to happen to me but I've seen people walk up past everyone without queuing. The most common one round here is to stand the other side of the shelter and barge in when the bus pulls up - I remember giving someone who tried this their comeuppance: I was at the head of the queue and when they tried it I placed myself firmly blocking their path and let everyone in the queue on ahead of me 
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The concept of a queue is an alien one to many around here.
Unfortunatley where I am at University queues are unheard of! I'd say queueing is a very British thing so perhaps the number of foreign exchange students makes it harder to do but when the bus comes (currently waiting about 40 mins for buses due every 10) it's a free for all!
I remember being at sixth form, where we'd get the same 30-40 people at the bus stop each morning. It always amazed me that once it stopped being a quiet stop and started to become busy, the queuing stopped and was replaced by a pecking order! It was just busy enough for people to recognise each other and know their place, just makes me glad I was high up
I remember being at sixth form, where we'd get the same 30-40 people at the bus stop each morning. It always amazed me that once it stopped being a quiet stop and started to become busy, the queuing stopped and was replaced by a pecking order! It was just busy enough for people to recognise each other and know their place, just makes me glad I was high up
I was waiting for a bus in Oxford this summer, to take me to the Peartree P&R. There was a queue at the stop, but a sign saying "Queue this side for Peartree" on the other side from the queue. Bus came, and I got straight on - to a chorus of sucked teeth and tuts from those in the queue who then followed me. Apparently it was a local custom to queue that way.
I once asked where was the back of a queue for a bus, and was told not to worry. Ask that question in London though and they'd probably laugh at the thought of there being an actual queue; London is a free for all.
On a related note, what if Person A enters a shop, pick up some items, and gets to the counter, with no queue. But the staff member manning the checkout is helping Person B to decide what to purchase. Person B then makes their choice and goes to the counter, but Person A is already there. Should Person B go in front of Person A or wait behind?
On a related note, what if Person A enters a shop, pick up some items, and gets to the counter, with no queue. But the staff member manning the checkout is helping Person B to decide what to purchase. Person B then makes their choice and goes to the counter, but Person A is already there. Should Person B go in front of Person A or wait behind?
SS4
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Behind. IMO getting help deciding what to have cannot be considered the same transaction as buying said products and there is no obligation to do so.
Queues for the bus don't tend to happen by ours really, more of a free for all. I never barge on myself and tend to let ladies and the elderly on first no matter what.
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Depends on the shop, if the person receiving assistance was getting it before I reached the till then they were getting served first.
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Depends on the shop, if the person receiving assistance was getting it before I reached the till then they were getting served first.
Xenophon PCDGS
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How big was he ? Discretion is sometimes the better part of valour...:roll:
On Manchester Oxford Road I don't think the concept of a queue exists - as I need to catch the X41 or the 43 I tend to lurk well back of the bus stop and wave my arms like a demented windmill as the bus approaches since there's usally one or two Magic buses at the stop already.
Tetchytyke
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Depends where in London.
Every morning I chuckle at the line of people dutifully queueing for the W7 in Crouch End, because it is such a Crouch End thing to do.
But generally London is a free for all, the Eastern Europeans here seem particularly incapable of being anything other than obnoxious when getting on buses. I don't get flattened much, being six foot and sixteen stone, but I've seen them flatten old ladies in their desire to get on the bus first (and then get off two stops later...)
DaveNewcastle
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Well observed!
causton
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Personally, from being all 3 people in this situation at one point, behind definitely. If I am walking a customer back to the till and see a queue forming I say "I'll be with you in a second, if you just join that queue back there..."! :P
In the morning there is only usually around 3-4 of us on the bus stop. We're all friendly with each other though and wouldn't barge on before someone else if they were there first.
After school there can be anything up to 15-20 people waiting on the stop. People don't seem to take note of who arrives at the stop first. I am usually there first because I leave school a few minutes earlier than any of the other students from lower down in the school. They all try to push infront of me despite knowing full well I was there a while before themselves, some of the, even pop to the shops and then come back over and still expect to be able to board first. Recently I've started shoving them back, if they manage to push past me I will shove them by walking into the back of their backpacks as they're showing/purchasing tickets. If they're happy enough to shove past me then I"" sure they're happy enough to take a good shove back.
After school there can be anything up to 15-20 people waiting on the stop. People don't seem to take note of who arrives at the stop first. I am usually there first because I leave school a few minutes earlier than any of the other students from lower down in the school. They all try to push infront of me despite knowing full well I was there a while before themselves, some of the, even pop to the shops and then come back over and still expect to be able to board first. Recently I've started shoving them back, if they manage to push past me I will shove them by walking into the back of their backpacks as they're showing/purchasing tickets. If they're happy enough to shove past me then I"" sure they're happy enough to take a good shove back.
GaryMcEwan
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In Glasgow at every bus stop you see it is a free for all. I absolutely love it though when I tell people that try to skip the queue that I've got priority over people that don't use McGill's weekly or monthly ticket, as it states on the back of the sealed wallet, that sealed wallet tickets have priority over fare paying and concession passengers...
alwaystouchout
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Depends on the area. Busy routes like Oxford Road in Manchester are just huddles of students and locals co-existing in a state of undeclared warfare.
Whenever I catch a bus in London there's just a group of people waiting to board in no particular formal/informal order.
When I lived in Manchester, usually there was no formal queue as such, but passengers almost always boarded in order of who arrived at the stop first.
Whenever I catch a bus in London there's just a group of people waiting to board in no particular formal/informal order.
When I lived in Manchester, usually there was no formal queue as such, but passengers almost always boarded in order of who arrived at the stop first.
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My biggest moan over the past year has been queueing for Megabus services . In two seperate instances where I've had luggage, I have been the first passenger to turn up for a service only for others who have arrived later to board ahead of me on account of the fact that passengers with luggage have been required to put it in the locker before rejoining the queue to board.
I also remember a number of school trips I went on where everybody wanted to be the first to board in order to get the seats at the back of the coach. This often resulted in people congregating round the enterance to the coach only to be subsequently told by a teacher to line up where a more controled method of boarding was used(eg in register order or a class at a time). Does this sound familiar to anyone?
I also remember a number of school trips I went on where everybody wanted to be the first to board in order to get the seats at the back of the coach. This often resulted in people congregating round the enterance to the coach only to be subsequently told by a teacher to line up where a more controled method of boarding was used(eg in register order or a class at a time). Does this sound familiar to anyone?
Hyphen
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With the exception of schoolkids (who are small enough to run in front of you, and seemingly really enjoy watching fat blokes get angry), I find the people of Sheffield/Chesterfield to be excellent bus queuers.
The ftr in Swansea has ruined the locals' ability to queue, especially when waiting for a non-bendy.
The ftr in Swansea has ruined the locals' ability to queue, especially when waiting for a non-bendy.
ReverendFozz
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What I have noticed in bus stations with automatic doors is just before a bus is due in people strategically place themselves on the opposite side of the door, bus pulls up and they make sure there first on the bus, it winds me up and drives me mad sometimes because it aint a tactic I would ever use as I know my place and queue accordingly...
Even if I have been stood on the opposite side of the door myself, If I had been having a cigarette, I always stand to one side and let people get on before me, even if I was there before them
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Even if I have been stood on the opposite side of the door myself, If I had been having a cigarette, I always stand to one side and let people get on before me, even if I was there before them
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We have a bus station like that here, one stand had a door which regularly ceased functioning correctly and opened so slowly it had to be opened by brute force. All of a sudden the old dears who had waited at the head of the queue were happy for someone to cut in front!
PermitToTravel
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I'm from London and very rarely use buses outside it, so I had literally no idea that people queue for buses?!
At my local bus station people form a swarm, surrounding the front door from around a 150 degree angle. Isn't this more efficient than a linear queue? I would think it is, especially is if somebody is paying in cash or asking the driver where the bus goes, others can tap their Oyster cards in by reaching around the person and then boardingbehindahead of (or concurrently with) them!
At my local bus station people form a swarm, surrounding the front door from around a 150 degree angle. Isn't this more efficient than a linear queue? I would think it is, especially is if somebody is paying in cash or asking the driver where the bus goes, others can tap their Oyster cards in by reaching around the person and then boarding
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Smethwickian
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It's difficult to queue properly even if you wanted to in Birmingham city centre. So many services stop at each stop, and the teeny tiny new shelters and 2001 Space Odyssey-style obelisk bus stops are so randomly placed in relation to them and any road markings, that it's just a free-for-all every time.
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I thought you meant all three people at once, on first read of you post!
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Apart from not being fat, I agree. I don't use the bus often, and never duing the peaks, but have had no queuing problems in this area.
When I was conducting in Leeds in 1974 I had a similar situation - at the Chapeltown Road/Moortown stand in Briggate you were supposed to stand at one side for the 20 Moortown Circular and the other side for the 2/3 Moortown (including Chapeltown swingers). Street Lane passengers would always stand at the 20 side since they couldn't catch the 2/3, passengers alighting up to Moortown Corner could stand at either so when I was on the 20s I tried to make sure passengers from the 2/3 side didn't push in and get on first (in the good old days pre-First Leeds buses actually got full standing loads).
This went wrong on one occasion when other passengers assured me that a lady I tried to stop boarding had in fact been on the right side of the stop, so I relented. She looked me full in the face and said
"I see you have a demon in you!"
Bit harsh I thought.
This went wrong on one occasion when other passengers assured me that a lady I tried to stop boarding had in fact been on the right side of the stop, so I relented. She looked me full in the face and said
"I see you have a demon in you!"
Bit harsh I thought.
Slightly different, but my personal bugbear is the car queue to get on to the ferry to the Isle of Wight, (Red Funnel).
If you are a responsible driver and do what it says on the ticket then you'll arrive 30 minutes early and get placed in a lane ready to board the ferry. They board strictly on a first come first on basis.
First cars on go on to the upper decks until those decks are full, then the lower deck, (used for lorries, coaches and overheight vehicles), is used. Trouble is, at the other end the lower deck is emptied first, whilst the upper deck waits up to 15 minutes to leave, with the very first cars loaded being the very last to leave. When going to the island this also means that you are now stuck in a huge long line of traffic behind the lorries, caravans, coaches etc. for miles.
As I'm a regular traveler over to the island I now wait outside the terminal and arrive 5 or 6 minutes before departure time, by which time the upper deck is full and they put you on the lower deck, sometimes down the middle and straight up to the front, meaning you can be first or 2nd off. It makes a huge difference to arrival time at my Mums and that lovely end of journey cuppa.
I've complained about it many times but they haven't changed the system so I'll continue my tactics, despite knowing it's a bit naughty.
If you are a responsible driver and do what it says on the ticket then you'll arrive 30 minutes early and get placed in a lane ready to board the ferry. They board strictly on a first come first on basis.
First cars on go on to the upper decks until those decks are full, then the lower deck, (used for lorries, coaches and overheight vehicles), is used. Trouble is, at the other end the lower deck is emptied first, whilst the upper deck waits up to 15 minutes to leave, with the very first cars loaded being the very last to leave. When going to the island this also means that you are now stuck in a huge long line of traffic behind the lorries, caravans, coaches etc. for miles.
As I'm a regular traveler over to the island I now wait outside the terminal and arrive 5 or 6 minutes before departure time, by which time the upper deck is full and they put you on the lower deck, sometimes down the middle and straight up to the front, meaning you can be first or 2nd off. It makes a huge difference to arrival time at my Mums and that lovely end of journey cuppa.
I've complained about it many times but they haven't changed the system so I'll continue my tactics, despite knowing it's a bit naughty.
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Ha ha, its not naughty mate, you just know how it works! No more naughty than me knowing where the door of the train will stop at my local station or knowing which side to stand at to get off.
The reason the lower car deck is cleared first in East Cowes is so we can off-load/load any drop trailers we may have whilst the upper car deck is offloaded (with pauses to allow the shunter to spin the trailer), also to allow any mezzanine decks to be lowered, cleared and either stowed or reloaded of cars, doing it this way means we are able to stay on time.
We are limited on space in East Cowes as you are aware, as we are aware and as are the council. One day we may get some more space and be able to offload 2 decks at a time.
Don't worry about it mate. I'm sure you do the best job you can within the various rules and regulations.
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