westcoaster
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Which 378 has been oncauldwell all week, something to do with getting its feet wet? Yeah being stalked by 106 lol.
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Which 378 has been oncauldwell all week, something to do with getting its feet wet? Yeah being stalked by 106 lol.
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378?!
387111 got its 'feet wet' (and bearings etc, with 387105, one of the last few units through on Sunday morning when the water was at its worst, just before it was shut). Didn't sound good. Probably that one on Cauldwell.
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378?!
387111 got its 'feet wet' (and bearings etc, with 387105, one of the last few units through on Sunday morning when the water was at its worst, just before it was shut). Didn't sound good. Probably that one on Cauldwell.
Feet wet? That's the biggest understatement I've ever heard. The pair at Cauldwell meaning Lovers Walk is two units down from its spare float. Won't be back any time soon.
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Seems no Class 387s are about today unless there's a last minute alteration just when I fancied a snooze to Brighton too 
Seems no Class 387s are about today unless there's a last minute alteration just when I fancied a snooze to Brighton too
Obviously 387s are wholly unsuitable for the Ford at Farringdon and should be sent up north forthwith with our nice comfy 319s returned asap until the 700s come along.
They will appreciate the 387s up there. The seats are a slight improvement on pacer bus seats with the metal bar at mid back level. (only slight mind you)
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I think we can officially add "387 seats" to the RailUK Forums bingo card, alongside LHCS 442s, AC 444s, North vs South, and Voyager toilets.
I think we can officially add "387 seats" to the RailUK Forums bingo card, alongside LHCS 442s, AC 444s, North vs South, and Voyager toilets.
And Drivers Pay....
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Saturday service is 6x 387 West Hampstead to Bedford along with 377s and 319s. South Farringdon to Brighton is 319s only.
Sunday on South side is 4x 387s, 2x 377s and 10x 319s. North is a mixture with 4x 387s out.
Sunday on South side is 4x 387s, 2x 377s and 10x 319s. North is a mixture with 4x 387s out.
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Which ones are 387s on TL North today?
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westcoaster
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110&115 on the 1024 ex bedford.
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108&xxx on the 1047 leagrave to bedford
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108&xxx on the 1047 leagrave to bedford
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108/109 and 112/118 are the other pairing.
Ok we will have them up north then, some people might be scared of some of the witchcraft on these trains though like air conditioning and a PIS system. and an interior which doesn't look as though its been dragged through a sewer
admittedly some people might try to flog ironing board covers to the railway or even bring their own
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Ok we will have them up north then, some people might be scared of some of the witchcraft on these trains though like air conditioning and a PIS system. and an interior which doesn't look as though its been dragged through a sewer
Yep, You are welcome to the Torquemada's (a catchy new name for the 387s)
Be patient! - you can have them when Thameslink has finished with them as they are busy doing a grand job at the moment. If you are desperate to sample La Dolce Vita di sud-est, then you only have to wait a couple of months until the knitting goes live on the Manchester-Liverpool lines, and the 'classic' London experience will be yours to revel in.
Techniquest
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I think we can officially add "387 seats" to the RailUK Forums bingo card, alongside LHCS 442s, AC 444s, North vs South, and Voyager toilets.
You forgot to mention "Are HST power cars locos?"
No, you lot keep your 387s down there and we'll keep your unwanted 319s up here! That'll teach you lot to moan about them...
You forgot to mention "Are HST power cars locos?"
No, you lot keep your 387s down there and we'll keep your unwanted 319s up here! That'll teach you lot to moan about them...
Don't brand all of us with the whingeing of the few.
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My apologies good sir! I suppose you'd best enjoy what's left of the 319s down there, even if it'll soon just be things like the Sutton loopers.
Without wishing to reignite the Great Seat Debate I travelled on a 377/6 for the first time today and have to admit it wasn't anywhere near as bad as I thought it would be! I was originally on a /2 and looking across at the /6 was stunned at how thin the seats were compared to the ones I was sitting on, however later in the day when I actually travelled on it I was surprised that it was actually fairly comfortable. I was only on it for just over an hour but still felt comfortable at the end of the journey.
Not convinced they'll be anywhere near as nice for a long period on a 700 though without the arm rests or tables.. I sampled the seats at the mock up but obviously that was only for a few minutes so not really a proper comparison.
Not convinced they'll be anywhere near as nice for a long period on a 700 though without the arm rests or tables.. I sampled the seats at the mock up but obviously that was only for a few minutes so not really a proper comparison.
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No 319 will be operating on the Sutton Loop in 2018. They are going else where. But not on Thameslink services.
Coincidentally, I had planned to get a Thameslink Daysave last week and do the fast bits north of Luton in both a 387 and a 319, but of course the Farringdon grotto debacle spoilt all that.
Maybe the next week or so will still be possible before there are enough 387s to banish the 319s from the Bedford runs forever.
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I think we can officially add "387 seats" to the RailUK Forums bingo card, alongside LHCS 442s, AC 444s, North vs South, and Voyager toilets.
Don't forget the Lymington branch
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Publicly stated at launch that there will still be some 319s to Bedford post 387 introduction. There's five pairs in daily service now on weekdays.
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Is it safe to assume that the 387/2s which are to be built for Gatwick Express branded trains will be roughly the same inside as the 379s on Stansted Express branded trains?
Although that would be bonkers, you can fit another seat where that luggage rack is, worth more when they are handed over to another TOC and Gatwick Express branded trains get given something silly like a 313
Although that would be bonkers, you can fit another seat where that luggage rack is, worth more when they are handed over to another TOC and Gatwick Express branded trains get given something silly like a 313
If anyone requires further information about the Thameslink Daysave please use the Thameslink Daysave thread, thanks
(I have split the off-topic posts to that thread )
westcoaster
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Love it when you give a tit bit of info lol, any more firmer plans you can share!
Won't all the 700s will have been delivered by 2018 so not much news that isn't public (especially if you have read the TSGN ITT etc.)?
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I think that was the only bit westcoaster didn't care about. It was the other half of the post!
If the 700s have been delivered and are in service then the 319s will be have been returned to ROSCO and might be in service or some start collecting moss in sidings for a while
If TSGN have said they are keeping the 377s (minus transfer to SE), 455 (all of them even if less intensively used) and some 365s that pretty much suggests 319 won't be with TSGN by a process of elimination.
Northern and possibly LM taking on circa 40% of 319s so far and any of the more likely long term homes will be part of new franchise bids (Great Western, Northern, TPE etc.).
There will also be some spare 317s and 321s looking for new homes which might align with GA after the Overground and Crossrail changes, again a new franchise issue.
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Is it safe to assume that the 387/2s which are to be built for Gatwick Express branded trains will be roughly the same inside as the 379s on Stansted Express branded trains?
Although that would be bonkers, you can fit another seat where that luggage rack is, worth more when they are handed over to another TOC and Gatwick Express branded trains get given something silly like a 313
387/2 is a red 387/1.
I've now heard a 4th operator is planning on grabbing some. No further info yet as its not confirmed (and isn't planned for this year anyway so things could change). Will require infrastructure change if this operator gets them.
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