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Group Bourdon Tool

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newlearner

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The Group Bourdon Tool link is not working at all, here is the file all scanned as at 31/10/2017 via online virus scanners ..all clear! Credits Chris Gresham

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Lrd

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Thanks for doing that, I've stickied this thread and removed the old one
 

Uplinker

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Hi guys.

Am having difficulty getting this to work. My iPad has transferred two files from the above link onto Goodreader, an .exe and a .zip. I can't seem to get the .exe to work. What should I expect to see and how do I get the system to run?

Thanks.
 

newlearner

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Hi guys.

Am having difficulty getting this to work. My iPad has transferred two files from the above link onto Goodreader, an .exe and a .zip. I can't seem to get the .exe to work. What should I expect to see and how do I get the system to run?

Thanks.

It's not compatible with iOS, .exe files are windows executable. This will only work on windows based computer/system.
 

newlearner

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Is there a similar thing for the SCAAT shapes test at all..?

I'm not sure I follow you? If you are asking about another software like this... this is the only free software I am aware of.

This generates SCAAT sheets (you can print) or you can practice on your PC.
 

martin2345uk

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Oh I’m sorry, I though this was only the group bourdon, I didn’t realise it was the SCAAT test too :)
 

Dynamonic

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So, what is a good score on this?

I was consistently getting 0 errors and 0 omissions, getting about 10-11 lines down on each page, with a row fluctuation of about 2.5. I got an enhanced pass last month with EMT.
Try to use paper printouts for your practice, as this is what you'll likely be using on the day. :) Print off 5 sheets, and give yourself 2 minutes for each sheet. You want to strike-through from top right to bottom left, every group of '4' dots. Make a 'cross' for the ones you mark by accident, as you would do in the real test.

Good luck!
 

Uplinker

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Thanks for the GBT and SCAAT test software, (and Chris Gresham for writing it), but Wow it is tricky!

I hope it gets easier with practice and we get faster.....
 

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Thanks for the GBT and SCAAT test software, (and Chris Gresham for writing it), but Wow it is tricky!

I hope it gets easier with practice and we get faster.....

Aim for accuracy rather than speed.
Speed will do you no favours if you start making mistakes or missing answers.
Only work on speed when everything else is spot on. :)
 

Uplinker

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So does any one know how many companies use computer presented GBT/SCAAT tests and how many use paper ones?
 

WCMLaddict

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RSSB driver testing standard, as far as I know, still requires dot test to be done on paper sheets.
 

Uplinker

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Thanks.

Tried slowing down a bit and seemed to get a bit further down each sheet in the time available. No incorrect ones marked but a few valid targets missed. It’s only the second day I have been doing these, and already a slight improvement, so that’s good.

RSSB?
 

Uplinker

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Thanks again. That is a useful document, not least because it explains a lot of the acronyms.
 

choochoobacca

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Hello,
New to the forum. Is there a group bourdon tool available for Mac users that anybody is aware of? My wife and I are both Mac users so have no access to pc. Many thanks for any information/advice anyone can provide
 

newlearner

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Hello,
New to the forum. Is there a group bourdon tool available for Mac users that anybody is aware of? My wife and I are both Mac users so have no access to pc. Many thanks for any information/advice anyone can provide

Hi, you can create a virtual machine on your Mac, please research further to gain an understanding of running dual environment...you can use the following:
  1. Apple's Boot Camp. ...
  2. To run Windows in a virtual machine within OS X, use Parallels Desktop, VMware Fusion, or VirtualBox.
 

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Downloaded this previously on a laptop n it's fine.
Now trying to run on a netbook with a max resolution which is below the recommended n can't alter it. Any fix for this or is it a 'pinch the kids laptop' job?
 

Danny Austin

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hi guys

I am brand new to this and have got an assessment on the 5th feb, I have downloaded the group bourdon too and am struggling to use it ie what are the controls for this as I'm getting tons of errors

cheers
 

Dynamonic

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Hi there Danny,

Your objective is to highlight patterns of 4 dots as quickly and as accurately as possible, whilst maintaining a consistent level of performance throughout.

In terms of controls for the software, use the right arrow key to scroll across, and up arrow key to ‘mark’ a group of dots.
The left arrow key will allow you to go back one space (only).

As the actual test is paper based, I recommend printing some practice papers off to give you a more accurate representation of the actual day. Use 5 sheets and give yourself 2 minutes for each.
In the paper based test, you strike-through your groups with a ‘/‘, and if you happen to notice you’ve made a mistake, strike-through again to make an ‘X’.

In my practice tests, I was getting about 10 lines down, with a maximum of a couple of errors/omissions across the test, and a row fluctuation of about 2.6.
I passed the actual test to East Midlands Trains’ Enhanced Standard.

If you’re finding you’re making a lot of mistakes, just slow down until you stop making so many, and work from there.
Accuracy and consistency across the sheets is key.

Good luck! :)
 
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