Llanigraham
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Are crossings routinely fitted with CCTV or enforcement (GATSO-style) cameras for road traffic? Have there been prosecutions for jumping red wig-wags?
Yes and numerous.
Our Box probably reported a couple a month.
Are crossings routinely fitted with CCTV or enforcement (GATSO-style) cameras for road traffic? Have there been prosecutions for jumping red wig-wags?
Slightly off topic for the thread but not on your comment, is there the flashing white light on the breckland line just outside Thetford, on that crossing that crosses the road to Watton, reason I ask is that everytime I travel to Norwich whether it on Greater Anglia or East Midlands Trains the train slows right down until on the crossing then picks up speed again, it gives me the impression the driver is unsure whether the barriers are down or not
It is about time the sentencing for any type of light jumping is an automatic one year ban, more for LC offences. The powers that be dont seem to understand... proposed fines for doing 1 mph over the limit, yet nothing is done about the fact that light jumping is on the increase
The way tecnology is going it cannot be beyond the wit of man to get CCTV on all crossings. The local councils seem to do it ok for yellow box offences
Sorry for the rant
It is about time the sentencing for any type of light jumping is an automatic one year ban, more for LC offences. The powers that be dont seem to understand... proposed fines for doing 1 mph over the limit, yet nothing is done about the fact that light jumping is on the increase
The way tecnology is going it cannot be beyond the wit of man to get CCTV on all crossings. The local councils seem to do it ok for yellow box offences
Sorry for the rant
The picture I saw was here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...transport-police-uk-news-latest-a8215616.html
It looks like a signalling equipment building to me.
Ok but do bear in mind not every single level crossing incident has turned out to br the drivers fault https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-norfolk-36111795It is about time the sentencing for any type of light jumping is an automatic one year ban, more for LC offences. The powers that be dont seem to understand... proposed fines for doing 1 mph over the limit, yet nothing is done about the fact that light jumping is on the increase
The way tecnology is going it cannot be beyond the wit of man to get CCTV on all crossings. The local councils seem to do it ok for yellow box offences
Sorry for the rant
Ok but do bear in mind not every single level crossing incident has turned out to br the drivers fault https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-norfolk-36111795
Slightly off topic for the thread but not on your comment, is there the flashing white light on the breckland line just outside Thetford, on that crossing that crosses the road to Watton, reason I ask is that everytime I travel to Norwich whether it on Greater Anglia or East Midlands Trains the train slows right down until on the crossing then picks up speed again, it gives me the impression the driver is unsure whether the barriers are down or not
Somebody has beaten me to it with a superb reply. Croxton is an AHB so has no indication for rail traffic. It has had a 40mph temporary speed restriction imposed for several years now & is even built into the timetable. It was put on due to the risk of speeding on that road apparently when being assessed. There seems little that will satisfy the powers that be so I am told that sadly this will now become a permanent speed restriction in the near future.
I was just going to post to my wife the somewhat odious Kate Jackson's Twitter feed re. this incident - link not now available. Surprised? - no!
It came up in our level crossing group meeting a while ago that Croxton would be converted to MCB-OD at 'some point' much as they've done with Chettisham near Ely (though I assume that job is far easier as they just replated a couple of auto signals as controlled to function as the protecting signals whereas Croxton would require them to be installed outright).
Plenty of screenshots around on Twitter though, including one of them gloating about how much annoyance they’d caused.
From memory in the 1980s the ‘Another Train Coming’ indication formed an illuminated or dot-matrix panel below the wig-wags. These days it is simply a fixed sign stating ‘ANOTHER TRAIN COMING if lights continue to show’ which is more passive.
From memory in the 1980s the ‘Another Train Coming’ indication formed an illuminated or dot-matrix panel below the wig-wags. These days it is simply a fixed sign stating ‘ANOTHER TRAIN COMING if lights continue to show’ which is more passive.
I am not making any conjecture about the incident of this thread but there is a mindset that a long wait means something has failed. Few car drivers will not have come across TTL in remote areas which are stuck on red in both directions whilst motorway matrix displays are legendary for warning of incidents which have long-since evaporated.
As there were two trains envolved in this incident, there couldn’t of been no waiting for the second train to pass, then assuming the barriers had failed and jumping the lights, as by default that means only one train was involved as the first train would of been well clear and on its way. That’s if you think about it logically.
As discussed above, due the sequence of trains it is possible two other trains passed before hand. So it could have been, get to the crossing, barriers go down, down train passes, then up trains, slight wait, then down train then up train. They crossed during the slight wait, prob thinking after the second train had passed the barriers had failed. (only guesses though)
That’s as much as I’m saying until the RAIB announce their investigation with the brief discription. This incident is not so much close to home but in the living room next to me. This is a REC call that every signaller will dread to receive, even more so than a suicide which happen all to frequently these days. The signaller concerned is a strong character but even they left the shift with the weight of the world on their shoulders. All deaths in such tragic circumstances will have an effect, not only to the families of the deceased, the unfortunate train crew, the signaller dealing with the train crew while making the line safe and coordinating everything, and the emergency services and railway responders that get called out.
There will nothing new to be gleaned from this event until the RAIB bulletin and then report. Moderates split the greater off topic talk of how various crossings work into a separate topic and lock thread until the RAIB release information.
I am not sure this thread should be locked just because there will be speculation. That's what happens on discussion forums. Moderators can and will monitor things and make sure things are kept in line, and anyone that believes a post crosses the line (sic) should report it.
Then maybe it’s just for my own selfish benefit, as I can’t use speculation in this discussion, just facts and these are facts that can’t be shared yet in a public forum.
Then maybe it’s just for my own selfish benefit, as I can’t use speculation in this discussion, just facts and these are facts that can’t be shared yet in a public forum.
They’ve locked their account to private so the tweet can no longer be seen by people that don’t follow them. They have also changed their username.
Plenty of screenshots around on Twitter though, including one of them gloating about how much annoyance they’d caused.
At the time @Wychwood93 asked they had indeed locked their account, but not long after they made it public again and changed their profile picture before posting more incendiary stuff before doing the above.
Has it completely gone now?
That’s as much as I’m saying until the RAIB announce their investigation with the brief discription. This incident is not so much close to home but in the living room next to me. This is a REC call that every signaller will dread to receive, even more so than a suicide which happen all to frequently these days. The signaller concerned is a strong character but even they left the shift with the weight of the world on their shoulders. All deaths in such tragic circumstances will have an effect, not only to the families of the deceased, the unfortunate train crew, the signaller dealing with the train crew while making the line safe and coordinating everything, and the emergency services and railway responders that get called out.
There will nothing new to be gleaned from this event until the RAIB bulletin and then report. Moderates split the greater off topic talk of how various crossings work into a separate topic and lock thread until the RAIB release information.