Drsatan
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I've read somewhere that a ghost train has been seen on the Wotton - Newport section (which was torn up in 1971) of the Ryde-Newport railway. Apparently the ghost train consists of an O2 and a few non-corridor coaches.
Couple of true stories if I may.
This involves a commecrial flight operated by Eastern Airlines lost over the Florida Everglades.
Components from the a/c were recovered and used in other Eastern aircraft.
On many documented occasions, the Flight Engineer was seen on board a/c that had been fitted with such components, warning of potential incidents. On one occasion he spoke with a Captain who had known him.
All components were removed from other aircraft and the sighting stopped. There was also an exorcism carried out
1) I suggest you look at some of the photographs of the scene.There is NO actual evidence that any wreckage salvaged from the aircraft was used later.
According to the NTSB accident report the aircraft flew into a swamp at 227 mph. Imagine what that did to the aircraft..
As for the NTSB they do not nmake the decision as to whether or not salvaged components are re-used. Indeed they have very little actual power, as even their accident report recommendations in the main can and are regularly ignored.
There are a couple of reasons.Indeed, it seems a bit odd that they can only make recommendations to make the airlines safer, ones that they can ignore if they don't think it's worth it.
Things don't work like that.
Whilst it may be fine for a Safety Report to make Recommendations, there may well be reasons why these are acted upon, not always gfinancial.
If all Recommendations had been followed in the case of Railway Recommendations then there would be no Mk 1 or Mk2 rolling stock running, and tyhere would well be little heritage operations.
Recommendations address an outcome of an incident. It is for the Operator to determine the likelihood of that accident happening again and whether the Recommendations are too onerous given that.
Anyone ever heard of the legend of the ghost of the Tay Bridge?
Have you actually done any reasearch into what happens to components from crashed a/c. ? Had you done so you would ralise that what can be salvaged and re-used IS. As for the NTSB they do not nmake the decision as to whether or not salvaged components are re-used. Indeed they have very little actual power, as even their accident report recommendations in the main can and are regularly ignored.
I should do a little research before you make yourself start to look silly
Oh well in that case of course you must be right and I must be wrong :roll:
Simply because the accidental use of NTSB (I was writing two responses at the time one involving the NTSB), in no way validates the argument whatsoever, and it is juvenille to have responded as if that negated the point I was making.Um, yes. So why the :roll:?
The original poster sought tales of the supernatural but was quickly swamped by so called "sceptics" seeking to proclaim the over-riding validity of their personal beliefs.
Maybe the Mods can get the thread back on topic and possibly split this thread up.
Its a sorry state of affairs when a fun thread like this is taken over by miscreants just causing trouble.
Not exactly a haunting, but wasn't there a Class 47 that drove in to a passenger train at Barnetby renumbered prior to the incident by British Rail who had been contacted by a medium to say that there would be an accident involving a locomotive with its previous number?
Is it really too much for you to simply leave the thread alone rather than continually trying to suggest there is no such thing as the paranormal. ?However, I do enjoy a good ghost story as long as no-one starts to take them seriously. We must just remember that that's all they are - stories.
So bring 'em on! But please don't tell me it's real!
If one starts a thread on the supernatural, one can't be surprised if those of us who don't believe their is any such thing express that view. So the thread is on track.
If you were to call for the exclusion of such posts, it would amount to gagging of rational contributors to this forum.
However, I do enjoy a good ghost story as long as no-one starts to take them seriously. We must just remember that that's all they are - stories.
So bring 'em on! But please don't tell me it's real!
Simply because the accidental use of NTSB (I was writing two responses at the time one involving the NTSB), in no way validates the argument whatsoever, and it is juvenille to have responded as if that negated the point I was making.
The poster has little (if any) knowledge about the re-use of components from crashed aircraft, and as much knowledge about the FAA involvement in such practices.
would you refer to thousands of christians, catholics, hindus, muslims etc as being irational for following their beliefs??
Isn't language wonderful! "Irrational" as in the straight dictionary definition does indeed cover an entire spectrum from Faith to Fantasy. Unfortunately, in modern English it tends to have a perjorative overtone, allowing CS to introduce the "whacky" criticism. However, people with faith (including a faith in the supernatural) can often produce quite cogent reasons for their faith. They may not be grounded in the physical realm of measurable "science" but, as they are based in reason, that makes them equally rational......
Therefore anyone who belives in something that cannot be proved by reason or logic is by that definition, irational. The same goes for those who believe in fairys and astrology, among other whacky un-provable stuff......
Well, I wasn't going to ge there, but since you ask me the direct question, then the answer is 'yes of course'. If it was otherwise, my logic would be inconsistant. The Oxford English dictionary defines Rational as:
adjective 1: based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
Therefore anyone who belives in something that cannot be proved by reason or logic is by that definition, irational. The same goes for those who believe in fairys and astrology, among other whacky un-provable stuff.
You continue to demonstrate agin your lack of knowledge driven presumably by the warm feeling that what YOU personally believe is correct.Are we really to believe that after all this time a microwave oven was then refurbished, fitted into another aircraft and then apparitions of the dead crew appeared INSIDE this oven ..........small crew ? big oven ? The premise is just laughable !
please pull the other one !
Anyone who really believes this cannot be taken seriously.
That really is my last word.
Fact : as i have already pointed out, a VICE CHAIRMAN of Eastern Airlines saw one of the deceased crew during a flight
lots of willy-waving too by the looks if things,