Confirmed running during the Easter strike

[Dai.]

Arriva Trains Wales

ATW have now added their service plans during the strike action- not looking good at all. Nothing at all to/around North Wales or Chester.

1 train per hour between Swansea - Cardiff - Newport - Severn Tunnel Junction from approximately 0700 until 1900, calling at all stations.
2 trains per hour between Treherbert - Cardiff Central - Barry Island between 0700 and 1900.
3 trains per hour between Pontypridd and Cardiff Central from 0700 to 0900, and also Cardiff Central to Pontypridd from 1700 to1900.
3 trains per hour between Ystrad Mynach - Cardiff Central - Penarth from 07:00 to 09:00 & 17:00 to 19:00, and 2 trains per hour from 0900 to 1700.
A normal service will run between Cardiff Queen Street and Cardiff Bay between 0730 and 1830. Customers can also use rail tickets valid to Cardiff Central, Cardiff Queen Street and Cardiff Bay on the Baycar bus service.

On routes not mentioned above, Arriva Trains Wales will be unable to provide any services on these affected dates.

Island Line:

Normal Service

Boo. =[

I didn't want them to change their services! haha.

Call me selfish but I had the perfect day planned!

Cheers for the info.

 

[Suggs]

High Speed

Dover Priory – St Pancras International – two trains per hour - calling additionally at Sandling and Westernhanger.

Gillingham – St Pancras International – two train per hour.

Ebbsfleet International – St Pancras International – two trains per hour.

Do you think they'll remove the premiums for this like they did during the snow?, still haven't tried the High Speed because of the extra price.

 

[466.networkers]

Do you think they'll remove the premiums for this like they did during the snow?, still haven't tried the High Speed because of the extra price.

I highly doubt it, the premium is only a few pounds extra, and is, IMO, worth it, purely because of the awesome acceleration and speed that the 395s reach on HS1.

 

[ukrob]

I highly doubt it, the premium is only a few pounds extra, and is, IMO, worth it, purely because of the awesome acceleration and speed that the 395s reach on HS1.

The same speed that Pendolinos and HSTs and 91s have been doing for years?

 

[2030720310]

The same speed that Pendolinos and HSTs and 91s have been doing for years?

Nope, 15mph faster!

 

[466.networkers]

The same speed that Pendolinos and HSTs and 91s have been doing for years?

What, 140mph? Don't think so somehow.

Anyway, that's for another topic.

 

[ukrob]

Nope, 15mph faster!

What, 140mph? Don't think so somehow.

Anyway, that's for another topic.

They do not run at 140mph regularly as they are timetabled for 125mph. Sorry guys.

 

[yorksrob]

I highly doubt it, the premium is only a few pounds extra, and is, IMO, worth it, purely because of the awesome acceleration and speed that the 395s reach on HS1.

Yeah, they could have done with putting in a buffet car or something at least to emphasise the premium nature of the route !

 

[466.networkers]

They do not run at 140mph regularly as they are timetabled for 125mph. Sorry guys.

Ok, so the TMs that I've spoken to several times whilst in the tunnels on HS1 all lied then when they said the train reaches 140mph? :roll:

Feel free to continue this discussion via PM or another thread, we're veering wildly off topic.

 

[ukrob]

Ok, so the TMs that I've spoken to several times whilst in the tunnels on HS1 all lied then when they said the train reaches 140mph? :roll:

Feel free to continue this discussion via PM or another thread, we're veering wildly off topic.

No - they have told you the truth. It DOES travel at up to 140mph - I haven't said otherwise. It is pretty widely known they travel at 125mph unless required to make up time. There is nothing to discuss in PM

 

[Suggs]

I highly doubt it, the premium is only a few pounds extra, and is, IMO, worth it, purely because of the awesome acceleration and speed that the 395s reach on HS1.

Cheers, will keep my ears open, I'm sure they are good, but they are only 4 minutes faster at a £4.50 premium, hence why I'm hanging back to when disruption means non-HS1 tickets are valid.

 

[2030720310]

Oh? I really thought they ran at 140mph!!

Guess I'm wrong.... :-?
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Oh? I really thought they ran at 140mph!!

Guess I'm wrong.... :-?

Oh hang on others have said that...

 

[quarella]

Yes, I did have a bit of a jibe at ATW's sake. Their website seems quite static (the Welsh timetable pages were once eighteen months out of date) so I mentioned them as an example.

Very poor. Almost as good as their "Last trains on Christmas Eve" section that only applied to Cardiff.

 

[466.networkers]

Oh? I really thought they ran at 140mph!!

Guess I'm wrong.... :-?
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Oh hang on others have said that...

I've been told by various TMs that they run at 140mph (where they can, obviously) all the time, late or not, but other people seem to think/know otherwise ....

Anyway ...

 

[2030720310]

I've been told by various TMs that they run at 140mph (where they can, obviously) all the time, late or not, but other people seem to think/know otherwise ....

Anyway ...

Yeah thats what I was told too, and read in the Railway Magazine......

 

[royaloak]

Yeah thats what I was told too, and read in the Railway Magazine......

Next time you are on one take a sat nav and see what it says, bet it is no more than 125mph unless its running late.

 

[jon0844]

Is there recovery time factored in because of its co-running with Eurostar? Obviously running at 125mph means the stops are timed for that speed, so if it suddenly did 140mph all the time - you'd simply end up hanging around at the stops along the way.

 

[A60K]

Is there recovery time factored in because of its co-running with Eurostar?

That it basically the reason, yes - the tight timing of Eurostar trains to fit with the slots available through the tunnel and on the French LGV Nord.

If South Eastern trains were timetabled at 140mph you would probably get a less reliable service, because a delay of a minute in boarding at say Stratford or Ebbsfleet would mean it losing the path to avoid delaying a Eurostar train further down the line towards the coast. As a result the SE train would have to wait for the Eurostar run behind it - probably 8-10 minutes delay caused by doing so.

Timing at 125mph gives the opportunity to catch up a minute or two delay within the path allocated and without delaying a Eurostar.

 

[krus_aragon]

So the Cardiff Bay service runs, 3 minutes each way, how pleasing for the
Assembly and so thoughtful of the All Wales Franchise.

It makes sense, when you consider that if Queen Street is open, there's only a handful of signals (and no points) that need to be operated from the Cardiff Control Centre.

I didn't foresee it, but the lack of anything running near Shrewsbury (and the NW coast) makes sense given the highly mechanical nature of the signalling in those areas. I suppose ATW figured that running Cambrian services as far as Newtown (or so) over the RETB/ERTMS wouldn't be worth it.

A shame ATW, NR, MR and VT have all pulled out of Chester: it'll be isolated too.
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Very poor. Almost as good as their "Last trains on Christmas Eve" section that only applied to Cardiff.

I'm sorry if you found the comment to be of bad taste. I try to only comment on what I see/know, and having lived only in Wales (currently Cardiff) I rarely have anything constructive to contribute about SWT or National Express, for example.

I'm afraid I can't remember what comments I made on Christmas Eve services. I've tried to praise the good as well as criticise the bad, but apparently not balanced enough. I'll try to toe the line better in the future.

 

[merlodlliw]

It makes sense, when you consider that if Queen Street is open, there's only a handful of signals (and no points) that need to be operated from the Cardiff Control Centre.

I didn't foresee it, but the lack of anything running near Shrewsbury (and the NW coast) makes sense given the highly mechanical nature of the signalling in those areas. I suppose ATW figured that running Cambrian services as far as Newtown (or so) over the RETB/ERTMS wouldn't be worth it.

A shame ATW, NR, MR and VT have all pulled out of Chester: it'll be isolated too.
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I'm sorry if you found the comment to be of bad taste. I try to only comment on what I see/know, and having lived only in Wales (currently Cardiff) I rarely have anything constructive to contribute about SWT or National Express, for example.

I'm afraid I can't remember what comments I made on Christmas Eve services. I've tried to praise the good as well as criticise the bad, but apparently not balanced enough. I'll try to toe the line better in the future.

Yes Chester station was live on TV this morning,the GMTV woman was on a few times, I agree pity Chester will have no trains, it seems.
As far as the Cardiff Bay service is concerned, having used it many times
I have yet to see an A.M on this train or ATW mini bus service that replaces it often.
I did not find your comments in bad taste, I also agree the ATW website is very poor,and my colleagues often point this out to ATW.

 

[Greenback]

Arriva Trains Wales

ATW have now added their service plans during the strike action- not looking good at all. Nothing at all to/around North Wales or Chester.

1 train per hour between Swansea - Cardiff - Newport - Severn Tunnel Junction from approximately 0700 until 1900, calling at all stations.
2 trains per hour between Treherbert - Cardiff Central - Barry Island between 0700 and 1900.
3 trains per hour between Pontypridd and Cardiff Central from 0700 to 0900, and also Cardiff Central to Pontypridd from 1700 to1900.
3 trains per hour between Ystrad Mynach - Cardiff Central - Penarth from 07:00 to 09:00 & 17:00 to 19:00, and 2 trains per hour from 0900 to 1700.
A normal service will run between Cardiff Queen Street and Cardiff Bay between 0730 and 1830. Customers can also use rail tickets valid to Cardiff Central, Cardiff Queen Street and Cardiff Bay on the Baycar bus service.

On routes not mentioned above, Arriva Trains Wales will be unable to provide any services on these affected dates.

Island Line:

Normal Service

It looks as though the Swanline stations will have their best service ever! Whilst other, larger, places get nothing at all!

OK, I know that it would be impossibe to staff all the mechanical boxes...

 

[Multiple Unit]

Why do they have to strike why not Jsut get on with the job instead of moaning all the time.

I need to get to Manchester from Warrington so Looks Like I will be changing at Crewe bit longer but at least I will get there hopefully.

 

[Royston Vasey]

FGW details now published
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=4868

Does anyone know what the replacement bus policy is? Are they likely to run any in Devon after the ~1900 last departures?

 

[quarella]

Quote:
Originally Posted by quarella View Post
Very poor. Almost as good as their "Last trains on Christmas Eve" section that only applied to Cardiff.
I'm sorry if you found the comment to be of bad taste. I try to only comment on what I see/know, and having lived only in Wales (currently Cardiff) I rarely have anything constructive to contribute about SWT or National Express, for example.

I'm afraid I can't remember what comments I made on Christmas Eve services. I've tried to praise the good as well as criticise the bad, but apparently not balanced enough. I'll try to toe the line better in the future.

I think you misunderstood me. The "very poor" referred to the failure of Arriva Trains to update their website. Not sure if you made any comment on Christmas Eve services. That was a failing I had noticed on the website.
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As far as the Cardiff Bay service is concerned, having used it many times
I have yet to see an A.M on this train or ATW mini bus service that replaces it often.

What minibus? Last time I was at Cardiff Queen St and it wasn't running several months ago passengers were advised to catch the Baycar bendybus from outside the station.

 

[merlodlliw]

I think you misunderstood me. The "very poor" referred to the failure of Arriva Trains to update their website. Not sure if you made any comment on Christmas Eve services. That was a failing I had noticed on the website.
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What minibus? Last time I was at Cardiff Queen St and it wasn't running several months ago passengers were advised to catch the Baycar bendybus from outside the station.

The ATW mini bus, that I have been put on outside Bay station when the train was out of use, the driver asked if anyone was going to Central, I was and he dropped me off at the rear entrance.

 

[Donny Dave]

First TransPennine Express Services Running between 06 and 09 April 2010
North TransPennine route
An hourly service will run between Newcastle, York, Leeds, Dewsbury, Huddersfield and Manchester Piccadilly.
There will also be an hourly service from York to Manchester Piccadilly calling at Leeds, Dewsbury and Huddersfield.
Customers travelling to and from Manchester Airport will be able to change trains at Manchester Piccadilly.

South TransPennine route
There will be an hourly service between Doncaster and Sheffield.

North West route
Trains will run at a reduced frequency service from Manchester Airport and Manchester Piccadilly through to Preston with a reduced number of trains running through to Carlisle, Glasgow and Edinburgh.
A half hourly service will be maintained between Manchester Airport and Preston with First TransPennine Express and Northern working together to achieve this.
Windermere to Oxenholme service will operate at a regular frequency with certain services operating to and from Lancaster / Preston.

 

[schenker]

I'm suppose to be getting the:

05:52 Axminster [AXM]
Exeter St Davids [EXD]
06:35

07:23 Exeter St Davids [EXD] 5
Bristol Parkway [BPW]
08:38

On Friday the 9th for a Network Rail assessment day, "Service update Industrial action may affect this train"


Anyone care to hazard a guess at my chances of making this journey?

Thanks

 

[Aictos]

Well I'm just telling my passengers to not travel unless they really have to and have no choice.

Much easier for them as the last trains will no doubt be very overcrowded and so I'm saving them the aggro - I'm so customer focused ain't I!

I know some can't work from home but if you can, I would strongly advise you do so.

 

[Mojo]

Is there a specific reason the MML isn't as badly affected in comparison to other routes? Less boxes/non-union staff/etc?

 

[Metroland]

Some areas are not so fond of unions