Northern Unit Refurbishments

[Werdna]

I'm guessing that the 150's and 158's in works get done before the end of the year, leaving approx 8 150's and 3 158's to do, which equates to the extension for 11 142's until mid February.

Then the plan seemed to have 48 195 in service leaving 10 to introduce plus 11 156 still to PRM plus 5 further 769 (after 3 introduced) = 26, which roughly equates to 23 144.

 

[OTRail]

Are northern going to get them done by the end of the year or will they get an extension.

Aren’t they alright to use as long as they’re coupled to a PRM unit? Otherwise I’m sure other units (plus the extra GWR cascades) will be able to cover for their refurbishment January onwards

 

[superkev]

I'm guessing that the 150's and 158's in works get done before the end of the year, leaving approx 8 150's and 3 158's to do, which equates to the extension for 11 142's until mid February.

Then the plan seemed to have 48 195 in service leaving 10 to introduce plus 11 156 still to PRM plus 5 further 769 (after 3 introduced) = 26, which roughly equates to 23 144.

Yes but Northern have around 5 150 and 158 units at a time at various works so if the 6 non PRM ones goto works that leaves just 11-5=6 waiting PRM plus of course the 156s.
K

 

[4REP]

Yeah, I get that. However, for those in the Manchester area who have had those said 156s previously, reality will now be 150s, or worse.

yes totally agree but the Manchester folk will be using and also gaining brand new 195's

 

[superkev]

Paths booked Crewe to Neville hill and Heaton tomorrow only (sat). See if either are taken up.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00325/2019-12-07/detailed
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05689/2019-12-07/detailed
K

 

[superkev]

Few paths booked sat only between Newton Heath and Crewe and Doncater works. See if any are taken up.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...19-12-07/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/XWV/2019-12-07/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
K

 

[3973EXL]

Carlisle to Newton Heath on the run.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O66970/2019-12-07/detailed

 

[superkev]

Carlisle to Newton Heath on the run.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O66970/2019-12-07/detailed

That's probably 150 269 which failed on its run from Wabtec Kilmarnock on 30th Nov and was dumped at Carlisle.
K

 

[superkev]

Re today's 5 or so booked paths too from Crewe and Doncaster works only the Newton Heath Doncaster seems to have run.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03946/2019-12-07/detailed
Presumably another 150 ?? for bathroom and PRM.
K

 

[3973EXL]

Re today's 5 or so booked paths too from Crewe and Doncaster works only the Newton Heath Doncaster ran.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03946/2019-12-07/detailed
Presumably another 150 ?? for bathroom and PRM.
K

Crewe - Newton Heath
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03944/2019-12-07/detailed

 

[trainmananthon]

That's probably 150 269 which failed on its run from Wabtec Kilmarnock on 30th Nov and was dumped at Carlisle.
K

Can confirm it was 269. Saw it leave just after I arrived.

 

[superkev]

Can confirm it was 269. Saw it leave just after I arrived.

Thanks.
K

 

[superkev]

Crewe - Newton Heath
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03944/2019-12-07/detailed

Thanks. Only checked the today only RTTs rather than the "runs as required"
RTT said The Crewe Heaton didn't run due to failed brakes! The Crewe Nevill hill was cancelled.
I've lost track again of the units in works.
K

 

[northernchris]

I've lost track again of the units in works.
K

I've got 150107, 150218, 150224, 150228, 156459, 158789, 158901, 158903 as being away at the moment for PRM work, along with 170457 for refurb and 170460 for repairs.

 

[507021]

Reported elsewhere 323239 has gone to Wolverton.

 

[3270]

1809 Newton Heath - Kilmarnock should be 150268: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O67572/2019-12-08/detailed
1235 Neville Hill - Bristol Barton Hill is shown as 158907: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O67540/2019-12-08/detailed

 

[3270]

I've got 150107, 150218, 150224, 150228, 156459, 158789, 158901, 158903 as being away at the moment for PRM work, along with 170457 for refurb and 170460 for repairs.

Some recent moves to Works: 150120 and 150215 went to Doncaster yesterday and 158849 went to Crewe on 01/12/2019.

 

[507021]

I've got 150107, 150218, 150224, 150228, 156459, 158789, 158901, 158903 as being away at the moment for PRM work, along with 170457 for refurb and 170460 for repairs.

Do you know when 150225 returned please Chris?

 

[superkev]

1809 Newton Heath - Kilmarnock should be 150268: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O67572/2019-12-08/detailed
1235 Neville Hill - Bristol Barton Hill is shown as 158907: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O67540/2019-12-08/detailed

Thanks. New location for works attention for 158 907 at Bristol.
Seems to a lot of units heading to works but not many returning.
I have of 30 dmus left to PRM of which 11 are in works.
Kev

 

[3270]

Do you know when 150225 returned please Chris?

I'm not Chris but it was 03/12/2019 07:34 Doncaster to NH

 

[507021]

I'm not Chris but it was 03/12/2019 07:34 Doncaster to NH

That's brilliant, thanks.

 

[jonesy3001]

Some recent moves to Works: 150120 and 150215 went to Doncaster yesterday and 158849 went to Crewe on 01/12/2019.

How come 150120 has gone back, already been done?

 

[superkev]

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[simon7929]

Looks like why 907 has gone to Bristol. The other 158/9s have had a full refurb. Only 906/7 and 10 remain. But no time do the full lot. Will have to wait. Bristol do the toilet/PIS only to make them compliant.

 

[superkev]

I've asked this before but noting that some units are PRMed at Doncaster but then goto Crewe for CET tanks.
The deadline for completion of PRM mods is 31 dec but for CET tanks I know not.
Is it the intention for all PRMed units to have CET tanks?
K

 

[northernchris]

Some recent moves to Works: 150120 and 150215 went to Doncaster yesterday and 158849 went to Crewe on 01/12/2019.

Thanks! I thought 158849 was fully compliant, is this for warranty work?

 

[SteveyBee131]

...
The deadline for completion of PRM mods is 31 dec but for CET tanks I know not.
Is it the intention for all PRMed units to have CET tanks?
K

I seem to remember reading somewhere the CET deadline is also 31 December 2019. Alas I can't remember where! And as ever, I may stand corrected...

 

[OTRail]

Just to confirm is it 17 or 26 323s moving to Northern? Seem to be seeing different numbers from different sources...

 

[jonesy3001]

Just to confirm is it 17 or 26 323s moving to Northern? Seem to be seeing different numbers from different sources...

Your best asking in this thread, but I think it's the full set.

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/northern-323s-refurbishment-and-cascade.161365/

 

[507021]

I read a post on here a while ago mentioning the 158/9s would be transferring to Heaton, is this correct?

Cheers.