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Media Coverage of COVID -19

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I trust RT for nothing. It's the mouthpiece of the Kremlin. All the UK newspapers are sensationalist claptrap, as is Sky News. The BBC website sits alongside the Guardian when it comes to mistakes, broadcast BBC is a bit better. For international news France 24 is good. If you want real domestic Covid information, you're better off pulling the figures directly from the gov.uk website and crunching the numbers yourself.

I think for me I use to follow it but now I don’t bother with it, could look on stats sites instead
 
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Nothing wrong with watching RT along with the other outlets like the BBC, they are all state propaganda in varying degrees.

Indeed so. You have to maintain a strong scepticism with RT on anything that is directly related to Russia or its direct interests. In the past I've found its reporting on foreign news significantly more balanced than the UK equivalents, however.
 

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I will ask this, is there any media out there we (public) can turn to or is it at a guess we all do our own research (or is that a dangerous path to suggest?).

I'd say *always* do your own research as much as possible, but maintain a healthy scepticism of everything, and always be as aware as possible of the agenda being pushed by whatever source you're using.

When you've exposed yourself to enough information from a wide variety of sources, you can draw your own conclusions.

I don't think I've found any mainstream or alternative media I'm entirely happy with, so I move around depending on the issue.
 

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The amount of mask propaganda on the BBC News website is now outrageous. They never, ever stop.

Even in non-mask related stories every single photo shows people wearing masks. My favourite was one about the 'rules' for eating out in pubs and restaurants...despite the article not mentioning masks, the accompanying photo showed a group of four people in a restaurant, all wearing masks.
 

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The amount of mask propaganda on the BBC News website is now outrageous. They never, ever stop.

Even in non-mask related stories every single photo shows people wearing masks. My favourite was one about the 'rules' for eating out in pubs and restaurants...despite the article not mentioning masks, the accompanying photo showed a group of four people in a restaurant, all wearing masks.
And where are all these disposable masks ending up? Where are they made? They are causing pollution just by the nature of manufacture and disposal and some of that may cause respiratory problems. Media haven't commented on the disposal side of things.
 

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And where are all these disposable masks ending up? Where are they made? They are causing pollution just by the nature of manufacture and disposal and some of that may cause respiratory problems. Media haven't commented on the disposal side of things.

I bet that’s because in many cases they’re not being disposed of, but re-used again and again.
 

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The amount of mask propaganda on the BBC News website is now outrageous. They never, ever stop.

Even in non-mask related stories every single photo shows people wearing masks. My favourite was one about the 'rules' for eating out in pubs and restaurants...despite the article not mentioning masks, the accompanying photo showed a group of four people in a restaurant, all wearing masks.

As not-a-doctor, let me give you some excellent medical advice : stop looking at the BBC! It's far worse for your health than any virus currently going around.
 

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I bet that’s because in many cases they’re not being disposed of, but re-used again and again.
What, the disposable ones? If they're not selling why are the shops stocking them? I bet plenty of people just chuck them out or on the floor, already seen plenty. Even non-disposable ones have to be made so using up Earth's resources and contributing to pollution.
 

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What, the disposable ones? If they're not selling why are the shops stocking them? I bet plenty of people just chuck them out or on the floor, already seen plenty. Even non-disposable ones have to be made so using up Earth's resources and contributing to pollution.
I'm sorry, we don't care about pollution and the environment any more, because it's not the deadly killer virus.
 

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As not-a-doctor, let me give you some excellent medical advice : stop looking at the BBC! It's far worse for your health than any virus currently going around.
That's not bad advice. I've been trying to wean myself off, but there are NO non-hysterical UK-centric news sources any more. None at all.
 

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I'm sorry, we don't care about pollution and the environment any more, because it's not the deadly killer virus.
Well indeed, as we saw when people started leaving litter on beaches.

How many who did that skipped school to go on a Greta march I wonder
 

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That's not bad advice. I've been trying to wean myself off, but there are NO non-hysterical UK-centric news sources any more. None at all.

No, I agree. I have difficulty not starting the day by looking at the online Guardian - but that starts the day off in such a bad mood, almost every day, that I'm finally learning not to do it!

I don't have a sensible alternative however. The MSM is appalling; some alternatibe media is good but doesn't really qualify as a daily summary of what is going on. Maybe best to give up on the media altogether for a while. Anything I need to know will probably be reported in various places I look at anyway (here, for example).
 

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As not-a-doctor, let me give you some excellent medical advice : stop looking at the BBC! It's far worse for your health than any virus currently going around.
I agree with this. I spent a full week offline, got myself out and about and checked the news very very infrequently and it did me the world of good. Wished I didn't have to go back to the real world.
No, I agree. I have difficulty not starting the day by looking at the online Guardian - but that starts the day off in such a bad mood, almost every day, that I'm finally learning not to do it!

I don't have a sensible alternative however. The MSM is appalling; some alternatibe media is good but doesn't really qualify as a daily summary of what is going on. Maybe best to give up on the media altogether for a while. Anything I need to know will probably be reported in various places I look at anyway (here, for example).
And the same with this. The Guardian is my main source of info alongside the BBC but I'm finding both incredibly frustrating now.
 

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I'm sorry, we don't care about pollution and the environment any more, because it's not the deadly killer virus.
Annoying but true. Same as how suddenly everyone in this country needs a car and how public transport is basically broadcast in some places as a 50/50 whether or not you'll survive. But the government and the media thinks it's fine because £2bn is being invested into cycling.
 

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Annoying but true. Same as how suddenly everyone in this country needs a car and how public transport is basically broadcast in some places as a 50/50 whether or not you'll survive. But the government and the media thinks it's fine because £2bn is being invested into cycling.
We also don't are about anyone with cancer, or people who have heart attacks or strokes. They are told to stay away. Doctors surgeries are functionally non-operational, if they think it's too serious for advice over the phone they simply tell you to go to A&E! We're not vaccinating children any more, mental health support has completely stopped, we basically don't have a health service any longer unless you have the deadly killer virus. Some regions are faring better than others of course but overall that's the scenario - anyone who doesn't have the virus is told to go away.

I shudder to think what the long term consequences of all this are.
 

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I'd say *always* do your own research as much as possible, but maintain a healthy scepticism of everything, and always be as aware as possible of the agenda being pushed by whatever source you're using.

When you've exposed yourself to enough information from a wide variety of sources, you can draw your own conclusions.

I don't think I've found any mainstream or alternative media I'm entirely happy with, so I move around depending on the issue.

Thats true :), I think for me thats the way I play it now
 

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And where are all these disposable masks ending up? Where are they made? They are causing pollution just by the nature of manufacture and disposal and some of that may cause respiratory problems. Media haven't commented on the disposal side of things.


Going down the route of .... disposable gloves....
 

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We also don't are about anyone with cancer, or people who have heart attacks or strokes. They are told to stay away. Doctors surgeries are functionally non-operational, if they think it's too serious for advice over the phone they simply tell you to go to A&E! We're not vaccinating children any more, mental health support has completely stopped, we basically don't have a health service any longer unless you have the deadly killer virus. Some regions are faring better than others of course but overall that's the scenario - anyone who doesn't have the virus is told to go away.

I shudder to think what the long term consequences of all this are.


I don't mention personal stuff as such but for me I have to get tested in regards to Aspergers, been on a waiting list (Scotland) was originally 18 months but since "lockdown" its 24 months (I don't know which way to read it ie 2 years this month before I get seen or is it less?), not complaining here to a degree but its odd when even your local politicans cry out over mental health but have sat on their asses and complaining more of COVID19 but rather than treating everything equally.... hypocrisy there at your finest!
 

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Another reminder that we are discussing the media coverage of COVID-19 on this thread.

I have moved some off topic posts about the correct way to use face coverings here:

 

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What always makes me go 'Aaargh!' is why whenever a news story happens, a reporter is there. (for instance, outside Buckingham Palace for anything Royal.)

Why do we have reporters entering and leaving Leicester, a lockdown area, purely to report on the fact that Leicester is a lockdown area?
 

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What always makes me go 'Aaargh!' is why whenever a news story happens, a reporter is there. (for instance, outside Buckingham Palace for anything Royal.)

Why do we have reporters entering and leaving Leicester, a lockdown area, purely to report on the fact that Leicester is a lockdown area?

I know its just a pointless extra cost, and usually results in repetition.

The bod in the studio announces something...

then they go to someone on location who repeats it, sometimes virtually word for word

then they go to a summary... which repeats it again...
 

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I am currently in Barcelona: you may have read that there has been a bit of a spike of cases there resulting in the mayor asking people to stay at home as much as possible; try and do shopping on line etc.
Needless to say a lot of people have ignored this, but the city is a lot less busy than I’ve ever seen it.
The media have been going on about how crowded the beaches are - they aren’t. People are sat in groups of family and friends and they are keeping separate. They have done the ‘long lens’ trick as has been frequently mentioned on here.

On the other hand, you now have to wear a mask everywhere unless you are eating, drinking, smoking or on the beach. This has been very well respected and the Catalan TV channel reflected this and had interviews with a variety of people with different opinions.

What was so different from our TV was that they spent about ten minutes on this, then went onto talk about some EU meeting, a lot of football and weather, in a half-hour slot. This is in the face of a possible lockdown being reintroduced.

From post #171 - they also seem to lack resident ‘experts’ to analyse everything. They let the newsreader read the news and cut to interviews with people involved where necessary.
 
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See they're at it again. Latest is Scotland sees a surge in cases. Apparently a massive 21 new cases. Utterly ridiculous headline, it would be funny if it wasn't so ludicrous.
 

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See they're at it again. Latest is Scotland sees a surge in cases. Apparently a massive 21 new cases. Utterly ridiculous headline, it would be funny if it wasn't so ludicrous.
Sadly, this is our largest increase in around a month, and Sturgeon has said that she finds increases of this magnitude worrying and that they may warrant a reversal of restrictions if prolonged.

Let’s just hope she realises how poor the economy will be if she follows this approach.
 

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Let’s just hope she realises how poor the economy will be if she follows this approach.

Her political positions on independence will be improved by a terrible economy - more nationalistic resentment etc.

But this is our reality now.
 

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Sadly, this is our largest increase in around a month, and Sturgeon has said that she finds increases of this magnitude worrying and that they may warrant a reversal of restrictions if prolonged.

Let’s just hope she realises how poor the economy will be if she follows this approach.
She obviously doesn't understand maths. This is still a minuscule number and to be expected when numbers approach zero infections per day. I cannot understand the nonsense the politicians and media spout, they clearly have very limited understanding.
 

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See they're at it again. Latest is Scotland sees a surge in cases. Apparently a massive 21 new cases. Utterly ridiculous headline, it would be funny if it wasn't so ludicrous.

I would like to see the media report the number of people diagnosed with cancer in a particular day. In the bulk of cases that is relatively more life threatening to the people involved than being diagnosed with COVID.
 

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I would like to see the media report the number of people diagnosed with cancer in a particular day. In the bulk of cases that is relatively more life threatening to the people involved than being diagnosed with COVID.

I did read something like 3,000,000 cancer screenings had been delayed or cancelled in recent months. While the vast majority of those will be false alarms, there are going to be tens of thousands of people who are in real danger because of the current crisis.
 

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I would like to see the media report the number of people diagnosed with cancer in a particular day. In the bulk of cases that is relatively more life threatening to the people involved than being diagnosed with COVID.

That's part of the problem with all these big numbers the media like to quote - they are never given any context or compared to average death rates, flu infections, other illnesses, or whatever on a given day - with the implication that the coronavirus numbers are on an unprecedentedly massive scale compared to everything else, which is generally not the case.
 
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