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How come the ex-EMT mk3s are being used with the ex-LNER power cars as opposed to the LNER mk3s?
The LNER MK3s are in a bad state, and need to be refurbished, and refurbishment is taking a lot longer than expected, surprise surprise.How come the ex-EMT mk3s are being used with the ex-LNER power cars as opposed to the LNER mk3s?
Two sets are in the shed while the other two are outside alongside the mainline. I'm sure the two sets that are outside where running yesterday as well.The 180s which have stood on the curve opposite the old PSB at Derby for several months have now been moved.
Two sets have been shunted down to the bottom end of Etches Park, alongside the main line.
The Hull Trains name is still clearly visible even though the lettering has been removed.
How come the ex-EMT mk3s are being used with the ex-LNER power cars as opposed to the LNER mk3s?
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409)
Yes ot is. Should be 156407.Surely the ex nummer on the first is wrong?
They are not being referbished that part is ok. Mechanically they are in a bad way which is what is taking the time to get the sets out as they need to be sorted first.Was refurbishment work always expected to be needed for the EC Mk3s? I thought the only reason they were being taken on was because they were ready to go (and a bit more compliant)
Seems a bit of a waste considering the current HSTs are due to be replaced in a few months. May as well just have kept the ex-EMT units and extended the derogation...They are not being referbished that part is ok. Mechanically they are in a bad way which is what is taking the time to get the sets out as they need to be sorted first.
That’s incredibly badly written for what is a simple story: it’s confusing two or three issues in the same piece.More info on the HST sets here https://www.railmagazine.com/news/n...lands-railway-hsts-granted-a-further-reprieve
I can imagine the same will happen to them as with the ex-GA units - some (if not all) receiving EMR’s interim livery.I wonder where that leaves the 180 sets. I don't believe any EMT branding applied as yet to them.
I wonder where that leaves the 180 sets. I don't believe any EMT branding applied as yet to them.
I would say some sort of branding will be applied in time, most likely like the 156s. I don't think they will be in service until the end of the year at least.I can imagine the same will happen to them as with the ex-GA units - some (if not all) receiving EMR’s interim livery.
Driver training’s apparently commencing next month, with the aim of getting them into service by the December 2020 timetable change.I would say some sort of branding will be applied in time, most likely like the 156s. I don't think they will be in service until the end of the year at least.
They were to replace some HST sets by working in pairs, though with the reduced passenger numbers that could change I imagine.Is the purpose of 180s just as additional capacity or are they going to replace the HST sets?
I mean to my knowledge the only ex GC set out usually is DY23 (43480+43484), going by the HST allocations that come out most days, although not sure if this was different prior to a few months ago.My understanding is that they were replacing the ex-GC 'short' sets like for like - no need for running in double, and 1.5 diagrams between 4 units should be about manageable for them!
I mean to my knowledge the only ex GC set out usually is DY23 (43480+43484), going by the HST allocations that come out most days, although not sure if this was different prior to a few months ago.
There’s only one diagram currently as far as I know.There were (and are) two diagrams for the short sets - one does DBY>STP>NOT>SHF>STP>COR>STP>DBY and the other does NOT>STP>NOT
There’s only one diagram currently as far as I know.
Ok that make sense.Driver training’s apparently commencing next month, with the aim of getting them into service by the December 2020 timetable change.
That's the first I've heard about working in pairs.They were to replace some HST sets by working in pairs, though with the reduced passenger numbers that could change I imagine.