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Forgot about Deighton. But is it being rebuilt, or will the new railway run south of the existing station?
Think its due to be moved towards Leeds.
Forgot about Deighton. But is it being rebuilt, or will the new railway run south of the existing station?
Maybe also London St. Pancras domestic opened in 2006, and Salford Crescent, opened in 1987.
Thanks for confirming.Salford Crescent was build where there were historically six running lines (and no station) in the Windsor Bridge area. Tracks in the area were rationalised and completely realigned at the time of construction of the new station & the Windsor Link.
Gone by 1911, according to previous discussions. The present buildings, track and platform layout date from completion of a 20 year rebuild in 1922, then there were some more minor alterations to platform widths in the area of the cab road prior to the Eurostar platforms being built.Waterloo. That old connecting line to Waterloo East was taken away right?
Huddersfield is an interesting one. The western end of the old platform remains as a bay for the Sheffield service, whilst the rest of its length is built our across the old platform loop line to face directly on to the up fast line. This gives potentially a much better start for westbound trains that the old design of layout did.Huddersfield platform 1 (extended outwards over the former up line in the late 1980s).
Mirfield platform 3 appears to be partly over the site of previous sidings.
Is Durham up platform built out over the original loop?
I don't believe so, unless you're going back a very long way. I may well be wrong but I think for electrification the Down main was taken so they could put the masts in, as they weren't allowed to modify the canopies which would have been required to mount the gantries on the platforms/buildings. The original Down loop became the down main, but the Up Main and Up Loop remained as they were
Durham has two down lines and one up line, not the other way around.
Comparing old maps and satellite images, I think the current down main is mostly on the alignment of the original up main. The single up line is the previous up platform loop.My mistake - been a while since I had any dealings with that station. Am I still correct in my thinking that the platforms remained as there were during the electrification changes, and the Masts are on the former trackbed of the old Down Main?
I think the Overground platform alterations at Clapham Junction also count.
Gone by 1911, according to previous discussions. The present buildings, track and platform layout date from completion of a 20 year rebuild in 1922, then there were some more minor alterations to platform widths in the area of the cab road prior to the Eurostar platforms being built.
I think it’s possible to go back a little too far with these questions, it’s now almost impossible to visualise where the through route to Waterloo East would have gone.
The line didn’t go through the concourse entrance though, that’s a common mistake. That arch isn’t in line with the bridge. The arch was for the more modern cab road.Actually not that hard to visualise - given the bridge it used to use above the road is still there (a bridge which, I think within living memory, was the walking route between the two stations before they built the new high-level one from the upstairs level at Waterloo Main). If you stand on the taxi/bus road in front of Waterloo, at the main concourse level, with your back to the old disused bridge over the road, you can see through an arch, ahead of you, onto the concourse ... which is the route the track went.
The line didn’t go through the concourse entrance though, that’s a common mistake. That arch isn’t in line with the bridge. The arch was for the more modern cab road.
We had a discussion similar to this about a year ago, or perhaps even 2018! The old bridge aims at the external station reception desk, but on the concourse side, I’d agree that you can estimate where it would have been, but there’s no physical evidence to see.Hmmm - interesting - I'll go and have a look in the coming days! I'd assume the direction the track from the bridge would be facing is pretty obvious, however, even if there's no longer an arch in the right place...
We had a discussion similar to this about a year ago, or perhaps even 2018! The old bridge aims at the external station reception desk, but on the concourse side, I’d agree that you can estimate where it would have been, but there’s no physical evidence to see.
A couple of people had wrongly assumed the arch you can see from the inside of the station was for the rail route, but it’s actually significantly to the left of the correct location, (as viewed from the buffers).