RomeoCharlie71
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Apart from the N43, it seems there are just a few timing amendments to Lothian Country services, nothing more.
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Graham Alexand
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Another change, another lack of the 275 going back to The Gyle I suppose.
Not much point until office staff return in numbers.
Additional running time on the 43 (up from 54 minutes to 59 minutes off peak, 64 minutes peak) should hopefully help with reliability on that route.
X31 to Gogarburn RBS looks to have put pay to the planned rerouting of the X18 into there at peak times which never went ahead due to the pandemic.
X31 to Gogarburn RBS looks to have put pay to the planned rerouting of the X18 into there at peak times which never went ahead due to the pandemic.
FlybeDash8Q400
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Sorry that does say N14? Never thought I’d see the day.
Getting a strong impression these changes are hopefully close to Lothian’s post pandemic network, especially with N14 etc back. No doubt the full 45 will be the question all over Twitter.
TheEastCoaster
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The N124 is also making a return, Semple Street to Longniddry though!
I've genuinely no idea if this is official or not (canteen talk) - but I heard it was coming back hourly on a full route. Could be nonsense and it'll be suspended again until the schools go back so take what I say with a pinch of salt. We'll find out soon enough, glad to see there's some reliability improvements to the 30 too.
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Indeed!
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Inter working with n11 by looks of it
computerSaysNo
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Still no X24 though (or X5)
I was also wondering, if the stopping version of the route is 124, and the night is N124, why is the limited stop version X24 instead of X124? Or going the other way, if the limited stop is X24 why isn't the night version N24? Just wondering as Lothian are normally pretty good with consistency!
(Also, since I'm posting anyway, I might as well ask: if I want to use some of the information contained in the Brand Guidelines document in a personal, non-commercial document, should I still contact Lothian for permission? I would be mostly using the typeface in the Guidelines, for some of the text in a geographically-accurate network map which I've created from scratch, if that makes any difference.)
FlybeDash8Q400
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Yea I noticed this last night so seems it is happening, no surprise that there’s a couple of changes to the original March 2020 timetable.
N22 extended to Western Harbour as well with N16 short workings cut as a result of N14 and N22.
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TheEastCoaster
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Looks like the 15 and 300 are still not extended back to their original terminus’s
Expect an upcry for the 15 not returning to Penicuik still.
Honestly I still don’t see why the 300 hasn’t returned to Cameron Toll yet, or even extended it beyond to Royal Infirmary, it’s wasted laying over at Surgeons Hall.
The 275 even to the Gyle Is also shocking, yes you could argue that it’s because Offices are still closed but there’s still the case of shops and the tram connection also!
Expect an upcry for the 15 not returning to Penicuik still.
Honestly I still don’t see why the 300 hasn’t returned to Cameron Toll yet, or even extended it beyond to Royal Infirmary, it’s wasted laying over at Surgeons Hall.
The 275 even to the Gyle Is also shocking, yes you could argue that it’s because Offices are still closed but there’s still the case of shops and the tram connection also!
Blindtraveler
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The N14 is very welcome indeed for those of us in North Edinburgh which quite frankly gets a pretty crap service compared to some places at times that are considered by Lothian but not necessarily by residence as quiet or off-peak.
The unique selling point of the 14 for me is the fact that it does a complete circumnavigation of ferry road and I should imagine that many residents along said thoroughfare will rejoice at having a night-time service
As others have said however the the elephant in the room continues to be the absence of the 15 to penicuik.
I would have said that there was a possible justification for a 2 hourly x24 Edinburgh to North Berwick even as a summer seasonal seaside special given that a huge number of us are holidaying at home this year
In a similar vein perhaps and hourly x26 from Haymarket to eastfield terminus during the school holidays would be a good idea ear to take the pressure off the regular 20 sixes and 124s fo those going o the Riviera resortt of Portobello beach
The unique selling point of the 14 for me is the fact that it does a complete circumnavigation of ferry road and I should imagine that many residents along said thoroughfare will rejoice at having a night-time service
As others have said however the the elephant in the room continues to be the absence of the 15 to penicuik.
I would have said that there was a possible justification for a 2 hourly x24 Edinburgh to North Berwick even as a summer seasonal seaside special given that a huge number of us are holidaying at home this year
In a similar vein perhaps and hourly x26 from Haymarket to eastfield terminus during the school holidays would be a good idea ear to take the pressure off the regular 20 sixes and 124s fo those going o the Riviera resortt of Portobello beach
The changes are now on the Lothian website: https://www.lothianbuses.com/news/2021/06/service-change-from-sunday-27-june/
Far from being extended to Cameron Toll, the 300 is being curtailed to Bread Street and having its Sunday service removed.
Far from being extended to Cameron Toll, the 300 is being curtailed to Bread Street and having its Sunday service removed.
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At this rate the 300 will probably be cut back to Slateford in 2 months before being withdrawn! (Seriously Bread Street?!) I could not think of a worse terminus!
Good news that the X18 will be serving RBS at Peaktimes now!
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Also I find it annoying that the 45 is suspended only because of the school holidays when the service itself provides some handy links
Currie to Firhill, Firhill to Meadowbank
Colinton to Portobello etc.
I “get” that it’s mainly used by students and that both terminuses are university campuses. But other folk use it too!
Heriott Watt is closed during the summer so shouldn’t we suspend the 25, 34 and 35 also?
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Totally agree with this post.At this rate the 300 will probably be cut back to Slateford in 2 months before being withdrawn! (Seriously Bread Street?!) I could not think of a worse terminus!
Good news that the X18 will be serving RBS at Peaktimes now!
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Also I find it annoying that the 45 is suspended only because of the school holidays when the service itself provides some handy links
Currie to Firhill, Firhill to Meadowbank
Colinton to Portobello etc.
I “get” that it’s mainly used by students and that both terminuses are university campuses. But other folk use it too!
Heriott Watt is closed during the summer so shouldn’t we suspend the 25, 34 and 35 also?
Particularly the last paragraph.
At this rate the 300 will probably be cut back to Slateford in 2 months before being withdrawn! (Seriously Bread Street?!) I could not think of a worse terminus!
Good news that the X18 will be serving RBS at Peaktimes now!
Also I find it annoying that the 45 is suspended only because of the school holidays when the service itself provides some handy links
Currie to Firhill, Firhill to Meadowbank
Colinton to Portobello etc.
I “get” that it’s mainly used by students and that both terminuses are university campuses. But other folk use it too!
Heriott Watt is closed during the summer so shouldn’t we suspend the 25, 34 and 35 also?
Its not good news if you dont want to go into the RBS, thats not an express service. First is cheaper anyway and now faster for me to go from Broxburn to Edinburgh
This maybe a 'hangover' ftom SMT days when buses had (mainly) three track route numbers and could not show X124. Similarly, it could be N124 because Lothian may have a night service for the city 24 in mind in future.Still no X24 though (or X5)
I was also wondering, if the stopping version of the route is 124, and the night is N124, why is the limited stop version X24 instead of X124? Or going the other way, if the limited stop is X24 why isn't the night version N24? Just wondering as Lothian are normally pretty good with consistency!
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TheEastCoaster
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Well what about the folk in Broxburn or West Lothian who work at RBS? It might not be for you but it could be for someone? And also it’s only adding a few minutes onto the journey and let’s remember it’s only at Peak Times! plus it’s technically a limited stop service not an express!
This could be a good sign for the X18I figured since Lothian are now in favour for digital blinds they would rename it to say X124 and also the X7 to say X107?
Also off topic but I hope they consider adding scrolling intermediates on all their service, the closest they have now are with the LCB services and they ones are unfortunately rubbish!
The X7 was originally the 107 thus I wouldn't see a renumber to X107 coming.
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I know, I figured if for some reason ECB we’re to introduce an all stopping version of the X7 they would number it the 107.
Lothianbus703
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I think in August or later this year there will be another service change that will bring back the last few services and make the network "normal again"
TheEastCoaster
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so we will see the 45, 67, X5, N35, N49 and N106 return? And the X38? Oh yeah that’s right Kirkliston has been abandoned
Jordan Adam
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It'll be no use for them as it's only outbound buses in the morning and inbound buses in the afternoon that serve RBS.Well what about the folk in Broxburn or West Lothian who work at RBS? It might not be for you but it could be for someone? And also it’s only adding a few minutes onto the journey and let’s remember it’s only at Peak Times! plus it’s technically a limited stop service not an express!
Personally I don't think we'll see "normal" for a long time, whatever 'normal' will be. Scottish Government funding has been extended until October for bus operators so hopefully the situation will be alot better by then (that's around when i'd personally expect something resembling pre-covid).
I'm still waiting for the 276 to take off its "disguise" and revert to being the X17 again.so we will see the 45, 67, X5, N35, N49 and N106 return? And the X38? Oh yeah that’s right Kirkliston has been abandoned
Graham Alexand
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The 276 is registered as a temporary service number for the X17 on bustimes.org.I'm still waiting for the 276 to take off its "disguise" and revert to being the X17 again.
Link to registration below.
PM0002883/8 – bustimes.org
The 276 is registered as a temporary service number for the X17 on bustimes.org.
Link to registration below.
PM0002883/8 – bustimes.org
bustimes.org
Service number changed to 276. Temporary timetable.
tbtc
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Ah, the Eastern Scottish/SMT days of the peak/express version of the 106 being the "X06" (rather than "X6"), to make it a lot easier for drivers to change the blinds!
It's good use of resources though - there obviously need to be outbound buses in the morning and inbound buses in the afternoon (to provide vehicles for the busier services in the opposite direction), so why not divert them via the RBS for the sake of a couple of minutes, providing a useful service from central Edinburgh - good way of meeting a contra-peak flow
Which means that it's now another service altogether and no longer the X17. By changing the service number and varying the route, it saved having to cancel the registration for the X17 and then submit a new one for the 276.