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CN04NRJ

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Fantastic to see Lothian expanding into these new technologies! Wonder how bus drivers will think about the camera mirrors: Hopefully they are successful and we could see a possible "new normal" with these mirrors.

I've sat in (but didn't drive) the BYD E200 MMC demo when it was in Cardiff. I didn't personally like it but I'm sure I'd get used to it if I ever get to drive one of these.
 

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Fantastic to see Lothian expanding into these new technologies! Wonder how bus drivers will think about the camera mirrors: Hopefully they are successful and we could see a possible "new normal" with these mirrors.
Down here in Nottingham, TrentBarton got a mirrorless bus and it took a lot of driver training before it could be used properly. However that was two and a half years ago so it’ll probably be different
 

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Just seen this photo, posted to the Edinburgh Trams & Buses' group, of the remains of 1029 being dismantled in a scrapyard somewhere.

[CANOFWORMS]Ha ha can't believe I'm doing this but it looks like it's rear axle lives on... [/CANOFWORMS]
 

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Cameras take a bit of getting used to, I must admit, they are better for blind spots etc... especially for Lorries as the new Daf and Mercedes have them, and they are right in your eyeline, but you still have to train yourself to not look out of the window, Audi had them as an option for their new electric car and I drove one, to have to look down rather than out I thought was more of a distraction than anything else and if you have to make your passenger aware that they can block the screen too, it is new technology, but maybe one that will take in future
 

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1011 is having a bit of a bad morning. It broke down straddling both lanes at Fountainbridge (image below).
 

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Cameras take a bit of getting used to, I must admit, they are better for blind spots etc... especially for Lorries as the new Daf and Mercedes have them, and they are right in your eyeline, but you still have to train yourself to not look out of the window, Audi had them as an option for their new electric car and I drove one, to have to look down rather than out I thought was more of a distraction than anything else and if you have to make your passenger aware that they can block the screen too, it is new technology, but maybe one that will take in future
Aye, I can imagine that they do, they have their pro's and con's but they seem quite good
 

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You know Gemini 3's have awful build quality when the seat padding on one of the rear seats comes off after going over a speed bump! Bus 448.
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I wouldn't put that down to poor built quality, the seat may have been replaced before and not refitted correctly. These things happen and it's no big issue.
 

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I made it to Edinburgh on Friday as planned. Just 7 bus rides and a tram, as follows:

Tram 265

84 (30)
346 (19) - probably my final one with these blue seats
423 (14)
502 (400)
629 (44)
1133 (100)
1145 (21) - planned an ex-GA London one and pleased to locate it
 

Lothian_Bus

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I made it to Edinburgh on Friday as planned. Just 7 bus rides and a tram, as follows:

Tram 265

84 (30)
346 (19) - probably my final one with these blue seats
423 (14)
502 (400)
629 (44)
1133 (100)
1145 (21) - planned an ex-GA London one and pleased to locate it
A good mix there.
 

Ricky Kane

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I see 301 & 302 as well as 303 are currently VOR and have not been in service since the 4th. Have these been withdrawn or are they awaiting repair?
 
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I see 301 & 302 as well as 303 and are currently VOR and have not been in service since the 4th have these been withdrawn or awaiting repair.
As very few Gemini 1s are still in service and there are still 70 new buses to enter service in the next few months, I doubt that the original batch of Gemini 2s (301-329) have long left.
 

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As very few Gemini 1s are still in service and there are still 70 new buses to enter service in the next few months, I doubt that the original batch of Gemini 2s (301-329) have long left
I didn't think they would go so soon. I wonder if 926 and 927 will follow suit.
 
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A good mix there.
Thanks. I sometimes look at doing vehicles in descending order of importance or jumping on a bus where I am not confident of tracking down the same type later quickly.

Some changes that may well have been reported here did still surprise me. These were the conversion of routes 1 & 24 to double-deck, the transfer of early Volvo B5LHs from route 3 to Central garage, and the absence of any Eclipses - even the later models.
 

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Thanks. I sometimes look at doing vehicles in descending order of importance or jumping on a bus where I am not confident of tracking down the same type later quickly.

Some changes that may well have been reported here did still surprise me. These were the conversion of routes 1 & 24 to double-deck, the transfer of early Volvo B5LHs from route 3 to Central garage, and the absence of any Eclipses - even the later models.
Yes double deckers would sometimes appear on these routes but since Covid these routes (and service 2) became fully double deck operated. For several months Central was the only depot operating all services and 401-425, 551-570 and 441-465 were all transferred to Central from Longstone. When Longstone reopened only 551-570 returned to their original depot but others (such as the Central ex London buses) moved to Longstone. Service 22 (which was the main bus that used 441-465 at Longstone) has also remained at Central for the time being.
 

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