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Avanti West Coast Rolling Stock Updates

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Sorcerer said:
If anyone has recently been on the newly refurbished sets, how do they compare to the old ones as an experience? I do like the new design and new features such as wireless charging tables and the new ambience to give it a distinctive feel that sets Avanti apart from it's predecessor, but has it also enhanced the customer experience such as more comfortable seating and better use of the shop or is it still roughly the same experience as before?
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On a refurbed set tonight (2110 Eus to Preston) Like the seats (not too hard), new info screens, charging points, wireless charging. Headrests on seats are very good also. Shop layout really good and much more space. Train even smells clean and fresh lol.Cash only though in shop tonight (apparently Internet issues according to TM) but I have food and booze anyway!
 
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Had a refurbished set from Manchester to Euston on Wednesday. I was running late and walking through the last standard carriage to get to Standard Premium. As it wasn't rammed in Standard I decided to not pay for an upgrade and I was very impressed. Very much preferable to the existing seats and better availability and layout for power points.

Besides the wifi being not really usable (which I don't often bank on anyway), I found it to be a big step up from the old seats.
 
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Any word yet as to their future beyond AWC? Or is it still speculation at this stage?
 
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Any word yet as to their future beyond AWC? Or is it still speculation at this stage?
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Still speculation. There hasn't been an announcement in the public domain. When there is I am sure there will be news here very quickly.
 
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qantas330 said:
390125/148 both went up to Glasgow today. 390155 also in service. 390156 on Longsight

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390154 going in for refurb early hours of 21/05
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390154 departed Widnes to Edge Hill in the early hours of 4th June. This is the first refurbished train with a 2-week turnaround.
390157 is the next train due in to Widnes.
The full list of refurbished trains is now 390123, 390125, 390148, 390154, 390155 and 390156.
 
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Now they are a few out and the faults and issues are in some cases quite well-documented has the refurbishment specification and other things been altered to improve it at all? I'm thinking particularly the Wi-Fi challenges, hinges on the folding tables and perhaps the the seemingly unfinished vestibules.
 
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390154 departed Widnes to Edge Hill in the early hours of 4th June. This is the first refurbished train with a 2-week turnaround.
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Wow! that is going some compared to earlier refurbs.
Is it a 24hr operation or just a normal day when they work on them?
 
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Given the extent of the works, I’m impressed 2 weeks is all they need!

Do they all still require a week of testing before being “let out”? (Ie a minimum turnaround time of 3 weeks in total from going in to re-entering service)
 
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Trackman said:
Wow! that is going some compared to earlier refurbs.
Is it a 24hr operation or just a normal day when they work on them?
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I think 390154 is the first train where there has been a night shift operating as well as a day shift.

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Do they all still require a week of testing before being “let out”? (Ie a minimum turnaround time of 3 weeks in total from going in to re-entering service)
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The previous train entered service 5 days after leaving Widnes so will be interesting to see whether there is further improvement this time.

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Now they are a few out and the faults and issues are in some cases quite well-documented has the refurbishment specification and other things been altered to improve it at all? I'm thinking particularly the Wi-Fi challenges, hinges on the folding tables and perhaps the the seemingly unfinished vestibules.
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The vestibules are being done as a separate programme starting at Edge Hill soon. Presumably the early trains will be fitted in around newly refurbished trains coming out of Widnes. I expect the red toilet doors will be addressed at the same time.
 
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Is the separate vestibule programme just repaint and carpet or are they doing anything more ambitious

Fast I'm not bothered about the Wi-Fi from a personal usage point of view I would like to see card payment available in the buffet again
 
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SansHache said:
The vestibules are being done as a separate programme starting at Edge Hill soon. Presumably the early trains will be fitted in around newly refurbished trains coming out of Widnes. I expect the red toilet doors will be addressed at the same time.
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This is good to hear, definitely my biggest issue with the refurb personally. This will hopefully help give the "as new" aesthetic that Avanti have been advertising.
 
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Is the separate vestibule programme just repaint and carpet or are they doing anything more ambitious

Fast I'm not bothered about the Wi-Fi from a personal usage point of view I would like to see card payment available in the buffet again
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Just repaint and carpet but it should bring the vestibules up to the standard of the rest of the refurbished saloon.

The card payment is an unexpected issue with the new equipment and is under investigation.
 
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Thanks for the above very helpful replies. Glad to hear they are investigating the card payment issues, for someone like myself who doesn't carry cash and objects to being charged for getting it out a lot of the time it's an added complication and to an extent and off-putting one when deciding how to make a long-distance journey on which I might potentially want to eat or drink on one or more occasions.
 
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221101 Voyager said:
This is the new thread to discuss any Avanti rolling stock updates.

Repaints, Refurbishments, Name Changes and any other rolling stock related info can be discussed here.

Here is my newest Avanti Fleet list.

Avanti Livery updates (correct as of 23/06/2021)

If you spot anything that is wrong feel free to let me know. :)

Avanti Vinyled Class 221 'Super Voyagers'
221101 - 19th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with White bodysides
221102 - 17th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221103 - 6th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221104 - 12th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221105 - 7th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221106 - 16th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221107 - 13th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221108 - 14th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221109 - 2nd 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221110 - 4th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221111 - 11th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221112 - 3rd 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221113 - 10th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221114 - 5th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221115 - 1st 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221116 - 9th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221117 - 15th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221118 - 18th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221142 - 8th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides


Class 390 'Pendolino'
390001 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Bee Together'
390002 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Stephen Sutton'
390103 - 12th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390104 - 3rd Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'Alstom Pendolino'
390005 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Wolverhampton'
390006 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Rethink Mental Illness'
390107 - Avanti Ends livery
390008 - 3rd Full liveried 9 - car unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'Charles Rennie Mackintosh'
390009 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Treaty of Union'
390010 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Cumbrian Spirit' - the last unbranded 390 to be done.
390011 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Lichfield'
390112 - 13th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390013 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Blackpool Belle'
390114 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Manchester'
390115 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Crewe - All Change' Also named 'Alison' under the cab windscreen on the Northbound driving carriage.
390016 - Avanti Ends livery
390117 - 2nd Full livery 11 car unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'Blue Peter'
390118 - Avanti Ends livery
390119 - Prideolino (Avanti Pride livery) - Named 'Progress'
390020 - Avanti Ends livery
390121 - Avanti Ends livery
390122 - Avanti Ends livery - Formerly a Maskolino with Yellow mask vinyls on each end. - Named 'Penny The Pendolino'
390123 - 1st Full livery 11 car unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390124 - Avanti Ends livery
390125 - 15th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390126 - Avanti Ends livery
390127 - 16th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390128 - 4th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'City of Preston'
390129 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Stoke-on-Trent'
390130 - 6th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390131 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Liverpool'
390132 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Birmingham'
390134 - 14th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'City of Carlisle'
390135 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Lancaster' *named on east side only
390136 - 7th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'City of Coventry'
390137 - 9th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390138 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of London'
390039 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Lady Godiva' with Coventry flag below each cab windscreen. Also has white window surrounds on the east facing side of the northbound driving carriage.
390040 - Avanti Ends livery
390141 - 5th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390042 - Avanti Ends livery - Formerly a Maskolino with Yellow mask vinyls on each end.
390043 - 4th Full liveried 9 - car unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390044 - 5th Full liveried 9 - car unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390045 - 6th Full liveried 9 - car unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390046 - Avanti Ends livery
390047 - 2nd Full liveried 9 - car unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390148 - 11th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'Flying Scouseman'
390049 - 1st Full liveried 9 - car unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390050 - Avanti Ends livery
390151 - Avanti Ends livery
390152 - Avanti Ends livery
390153 - 10th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390154 - Avanti Ends livery
390155 - 8th Full livery 11 car Unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'Railway Benefit Fund' in April 2021.
390156 - 2nd full Avanti liveried 11 coach unit (Original Full Avanti Livery) - Named 'Pride and Prosperity' on Southbound front carriage
390157 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Chad Varah'
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Is there any scope for the list in post #1 to include the refurbished units?
 
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Been confirmed courtesy of Steven Knight Media that the first 2 Class 221s will go off lease next Monday,


News just in from Avanti West Coast (AWC) is that Class 221 Super Voyagers 221142 and 221143 will go off lease next Monday and will be returned to leasing company Beacon Rail. AWC says it needs 44 Pendolinos and 12 Super Voyagers to operate its existing timetable
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Nicholas Lewis said:
So unless the service is going to be jacked up again they don't need the 10 807's as have 12 spare 390's daily ok have to allow a few on mtce but they have sufficient.
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As well as the 390s being refurbished.

Also, this looks like 221143, despite being repaired and receiving the Avanti livery, will not re-enter service with Avanti.
 
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