It should’ve always has one. Especially when the train sits in Wolverhampton for 15 minutes it could easily serve StaffordMay be wrong, but I think the Scotland via West Mids gains a Stafford call as well.
It should’ve always has one. Especially when the train sits in Wolverhampton for 15 minutes it could easily serve StaffordMay be wrong, but I think the Scotland via West Mids gains a Stafford call as well.
Would make sense since there is already a lengthy dwell time at Wolverhampton in the southbound direction.May be wrong, but I think the Scotland via West Mids gains a Stafford call as well.
The timetable has been entirely restructured, so analysing it from the perspective of the current structure doesn't really help.Would make sense since there is already a lengthy dwell time at Wolverhampton in the southbound direction.
Only in the up though. It doesn't both ways.It should’ve always has one. Especially when the train sits in Wolverhampton for 15 minutes it could easily serve Stafford
Can anyone point me in the direction of where the new Nuneaton stop in the Avanti Manchester service is officially documented please? Thanks in advance. About time, but great to hear.The connection time is about 15 minutes IIRC, Manchester to Leicester will be about 1hr35 via Nuneaton. Northbound the connection is less good, but still competitive compared to going via Sheffield (30 min connection, journey time Leicester to Manchester about 2 hours).
Post #194 aboveCan anyone point me in the direction of where the new Nuneaton stop in the Avanti Manchester service is officially documented please? Thanks in advance. About time, but great to hear.
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I'm sure I read a reply on twitter saying that Station Staff were telling people this without there actually being any evidence of it happeningLocal social media groups are stating Orpington are loosing all “fast” trains from December is there anything concrete to read on the SE changes or is this all rumours
It crawls past Stafford going northbound. If they stopped it Stafford they could allow the xx40 Euston Manchester service in front of it as it always is late into CreweOnly in the up though. It doesn't both ways.
That is because of the infrastructure and isnt timetable related. It certainly doesnt find you the three minutes a stop would cost you currently. With the current timetable you would be adding 7 minutes into the Scotland train as it can't follow the Manchester at Norton Bridge until 3 minutes after.It crawls past Stafford going northbound. If they stopped it Stafford they could allow the xx40 Euston Manchester service in front of it as it always is late into Crewe
Where would they lose them to? Is the suggestion that all Hastings and East Kent services run fast London Bridge to Sevenoaks, which seems unlikely, or that they call all stations, which is also unlikely, or that some of the services are being withdrawn altogether, which also seems unlikely?Local social media groups are stating Orpington are loosing all “fast” trains from December is there anything concrete to read on the SE changes or is this all rumours
Is the suggestion that all Hastings and East Kent services run fast London Bridge to Sevenoaks
Local social media groups are stating Orpington are loosing all “fast” trains from December is there anything concrete to read on the SE changes or is this all rumours
Where would they lose them to? Is the suggestion that all Hastings and East Kent services run fast London Bridge to Sevenoaks, which seems unlikely, or that they call all stations, which is also unlikely, or that some of the services are being withdrawn altogether, which also seems unlikely.
Not daft at all. That was based around 4tph coming from Ashford, with 2tph from Tunbridge Wells and then The Hastings services which are normally full by Tonbridge would run fast.Wrt Hastings services, I remember a few years ago the aspiration being to run these fast Tonbridge - London Bridge, so maybe they’ve finally pressed through these (daft) changes
Pre-covid, and to an extent at the moment, these services swapped Orpington for Chelsfield in the peak, which meant Orpington had no fast services in core peak hours (although Chelsfield is on the southern edge of Orpington so some passengers may have been okay). If Orpington needs a fast service then SE ought to bring back the Tunbridge Wells' semi-fasts all day, rather than just the peaks and an hour either side.Yes, although I believe Charing Cross to Tunbridge Wells services will call in the hours they run
Is this still an aspiration?Not daft at all. That was based around 4tph coming from Ashford, with 2tph from Tunbridge Wells and then The Hastings services which are normally full by Tonbridge would run fast.
With 4tph from ashford it's not daft, but without those, it's daft. And knowing the way things are going, it's going to be without those 4tphNot daft at all. That was based around 4tph coming from Ashford, with 2tph from Tunbridge Wells and then The Hastings services which are normally full by Tonbridge would run fast.
Pre-covid, and to an extent at the moment, these services swapped Orpington for Chelsfield in the peak, which meant Orpington had no fast services in core peak hours (although Chelsfield is on the southern edge of Orpington so some passengers may have been okay). If Orpington needs a fast service then SE ought to bring back the Tunbridge Wells' semi-fasts all day, rather than just the peaks and an hour either side.
Is this still an aspiration?
I believe off peak it will now only be 2tphWith 4tph from ashford it's not daft, but without those, it's daft. And knowing the way things are going, it's going to be without those 4tph
I think the via Crewe Manchester was going to call at Stafford too anywayThat is because of the infrastructure and isnt timetable related. It certainly doesnt find you the three minutes a stop would cost you currently. With the current timetable you would be adding 7 minutes into the Scotland train as it can't follow the Manchester at Norton Bridge until 3 minutes after.
I believe off peak it will now only be 2tph
Is Thameslink to Maidstone or Ashford dead now?
Is that a regular all day service, or an infrequenst addition like the recently introduced Maidstone East - Blackfriars trains which I assume they'll replace?Yes, there is a new Maidstone to Charing Cross service from December which is essentially in lieu of the proposed Thameslink services.
Is Thameslink to Maidstone or Ashford dead now?
Yes, there is a new Maidstone to Charing Cross service from December which is essentially in lieu of the proposed Thameslink services.
Be great if the Vic-Ashford-Canterbury services continue as it gives me a choiceYes, there is a new Maidstone to Charing Cross service from December which is essentially in lieu of the proposed Thameslink services.
Not Blackfriars?Yes, there is a new Maidstone to Charing Cross service from December which is essentially in lieu of the proposed Thameslink services.