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Foxxle said:
Isn't that the one doing the move? Have they decoupled it from the 315s?
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Or has the other 315 units since it was a headcode 1Z99 involved ie a rescue movement. Due to 37884 failure and it needed rescue. However don't forget a fortnight ago 37884 did fail at Worcester on it's way back from the last scrap move.
 
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5Q25 130 late through Ilford station.
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Anyone got confirmation of a) what is on today's run and b) when yesterday's caped run to Sims is being re-planned for please?
 
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Nice bit of 37 acceleration as it paused on platform 10, I presume for a driver change or to drop off a route conductor.PXL_20221223_112029392.jpg
 
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315856 on the move into preservation! 37884 hauling it through Hampstead Heath;
 

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Before everyone gets too excited. It’s going to Lydney, a location that destroyed the former SWT CIG units sent there. I seriously hope history doesn’t repeat itself.
 
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Southern Dvr said:
Before everyone gets too excited. It’s going to Lydney, a location that destroyed the former SWT CIG units sent there. I seriously hope history doesn’t repeat itself.
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It is also going to Lydney over a holiday period when the sort of people interested in destruction of other people's property are most likely to be looking for something to vandalise, as seen by the number of graffiti attacks that happen on the mainline railway at this time of year. I hope history doesn't repeat itself as well.
 
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The_Train said:
Surprised there isn't more discussion on this - there was plenty to be said when things weren't going quite so smoothly for the preservation group!
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There is a long, long way to go yet, every step is difficult and actually getting a unit is the easiest.
Given EMU preservation history, they are certainly brave, and attempting to save a full unit is admirable, but I think the lack of honesty, even bending of the truth, regarding the state of affairs may have sealed there reputation in many people eyes, certainly mine.
 
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There is a long, long way to go yet, every step is difficult and actually getting a unit is the easiest.
Given EMU preservation history, they are certainly brave, and attempting to save a full unit is admirable, but I think the lack of honesty, even bending of the truth, regarding the state of affairs may have sealed there reputation in many people eyes, certainly mine.
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Indeed. As far as I'm aware the group's only involvement in this 'saving' so far has been to specify a destination for rail delivery by the Rosco. Barely a fortnight ago was the group making a mad scramble for funds for road transport.

When the onward road transport actually happens there might be a slight improvement in public opinion, but even then the unit is categorically not 'saved' because it has been moved from a fully functioning railway depot to, essentially, a field with some tracks. The decay will only speed up quite significantly at that stage.

As I said nearly three years ago: when you're telling everyone how you're going to operate an EMU before you've even got the funds to transport it, your priorities aren't particularly well organised.
 
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bluegoblin7 said:
Indeed. As far as I'm aware the group's only involvement in this 'saving' so far has been to specify a destination for rail delivery by the Rosco. Barely a fortnight ago was the group making a mad scramble for funds for road transport.

When the onward road transport actually happens there might be a slight improvement in public opinion, but even then the unit is categorically not 'saved' because it has been moved from a fully functioning railway depot to, essentially, a field with some tracks. The decay will only speed up quite significantly at that stage.

As I said nearly three years ago: when you're telling everyone how you're going to operate an EMU before you've even got the funds to transport it, your priorities aren't particularly well organised.
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Respectfully, But how is this different from preserving some Ex. mainline Mk3's and taking them to a preserved line? (which has happened up and down the country). I've barely seen any fuss made about sending multiple mk3's to the likes of MNR, CVR, NHR, GCR, SVR ect. ect. Where's the undercover storage for all of these vehicles?

This is essentially what these are to a heritage line, a set of ex. mainline coaches to be hauled by various locomotives but with the added operational flexibility that it can be easily piloted and has the potential for modification for rear-cab operation. not something you can do with Mk3s unless you also have a DVT.

Your argument that you don't consider anything saved if it's just been moved to "A field with some tracks" is flawed because that can extend to many items of stock on almost any preservation line. Do you not consider any preserved pacer "saved" just because all that's happened is it's been moved onto a preservation site? Rail pres. is a constant battle of upkeep of course, and I'm not disputing you need a solid plan, but it is really disingenuous to that group to now not consider it saved. It is. end of. It's not at Simms being broken up and they have recently posted they are now the legal owners of it. What happens to it now is anyone's guess but for now, it is saved. they have achieved their initial goal and nobody should rob them of that.

And just to add to your "Rapid Decay" argument. These EMUs were built to be stabled outside. Yes, the increased movement of being mainline operational helps combat things like water collecting but these sets rarely ever got the luxury of undercover stabling unless they were in for service. Many mainline carriage sidings are exposed to all the elements. As long as regular upkeep is maintained, like many other heritage railways the vehicles can be kept in good body condition for ten years or more.

I Feel like your personal bias towards this group and your views on how they have done things in the past may be affecting your opinions here because your arguments are flawed.

I for one, as a fellow EMU preservationist, wish every success to the group in their future endeavours and look forward to seeing if they can achieve their goals.
 
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