Class 315 Withdrawals

[357]

A shed, workshop and shore supply. I would hope that the group have arranged for access to all of these things.

The quote below answers the question:

moved from a fully functioning railway depot to, essentially, a field with some tracks.

It's going to the same place as that 38 stock from the IOW

 

[D365]

Please tell me they have a 240V supply at the very least! I couldn’t be doing without my travel mug and a kettle.

 

[357]

Please tell me they have a 240V supply at the very least! I couldn’t be doing without my travel mug and a kettle.

Looking at the 38 stock group, they seem to have done some roof repairs and painted some extra headlights on the front, so unable to see if they have power or not.

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[Electrojuniper]

I am aware that this item is to do with 315 withdrawals, but I cant help by thinking that as this unit was in an operational condition, why has it been moved to a middle of nowhere for preservation. Knowing our friends at Abelio, LO and/or MTR, surely this unit should have been kept in a mainline condition and run on specials using a collective of operators?!? preserving a unit in the Wales miles away is such a shame. I know a few discussions should have been had before sending!

the unit will deteriorate quickly (315 leak well around body end) and with no heat, the interiors will become stuffy and mouldy. I saw the 508 units and Eastleigh when stored and they were a sight for sore eyes!

This unit should be where it was intended under the wires keeping warm.

 

[Razorblades]

Knowing our friends at Abelio, LO and/or MTR, surely this unit should have been kept in a mainline condition and run on specials using a collective of operators?!?

This unit should be where it was intended under the wires keeping warm.

These operators are under the DfT cosh and won't be frittering cash away looking after 'pet' units that have very niche enthusiast appeal.

 

[357]

I am aware that this item is to do with 315 withdrawals, but I cant help by thinking that as this unit was in an operational condition, why has it been moved to a middle of nowhere for preservation. Knowing our friends at Abelio, LO and/or MTR, surely this unit should have been kept in a mainline condition and run on specials using a collective of operators?!? preserving a unit in the Wales miles away is such a shame. I know a few discussions should have been had before sending!

the unit will deteriorate quickly (315 leak well around body end) and with no heat, the interiors will become stuffy and mouldy. I saw the 508 units and Eastleigh when stored and they were a sight for sore eyes!

This unit should be where it was intended under the wires keeping warm.

Ilford had a pet unit for many years. They were told to get rid of it, it went from a shed road to somewhere in Anglia, is kept in a field and is rotting as far as I know.

 

[306024]

This unit should be where it was intended under the wires keeping warm.

Don’t disagree with the sentimentality, BR managed it with 306017, which even survived into the privatised world with First Great Eastern, but those were simply different days. Sentimentality doesn’t pay the bills these days.

As I understand it, numerous discussions were held before 315856 ended up having to go west of Swansea.

If this were Switzerland you may have a chance, but EMU preservation is indeed of niche appeal. Look at the Glasgow 303 unit at Bo’ness which I‘d argue is more iconic yet just resides in the shed.

Ilford had a pet unit for many years. They were told to get rid of it, it went from a shed road to somewhere in Anglia, is kept in a field and is rotting as far as I know.

306017 went from Ilford to a field at MOD Kineton near Banbury. Then on to Eastleigh for asbestos removal, before being rescued back to Chappel and Wakes Colne by the guy that maintained it at Ilford. But with so much else to manage at Chappel the unit did deteriorate until the National Railway Museum launched a £30,000 appeal for its restoration. Funds raised, it was moved to Shildon in October 2018 where it is now being restored in BR blue.

 

[357]

306017 went from Ilford to a field at MOD Kineton near Banbury. Then on to Eastleigh for asbestos removal, before being rescued back to Chappel and Wakes Colne by the guy that maintained it at Ilford. But with so much else to manage at Chappel the unit did deteriorate until the National Railway Museum launched a £30,000 appeal for its restoration. Funds raised, it was moved to Shildon in October 2018 where it is now being restored in BR blue.

That's good news at least! Thanks for the update. It left Ilford shortly before I started on the GE

 

[3973EXL]

STP 04/01 0H72 1200 Derby - Wembley HS 37884
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R00732/2023-01-04/detailed

STP 05/01 0L50 0749 Wembley HS - Ilford
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R05847/2023-01-05/detailed

STP 05/01 5Q76 1036 Ilford - Newport Docks
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K00891/2023-01-05/detailed

 

[Foxxle]

STP 05/01 5Q76 1036 Ilford - Newport Docks
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K00891/2023-01-05/detailed

837 and 857's journey to their demise? It also says 400 tonnes instead of the previous moves being 315? Does that mean they will put coaches or something on each end, not sure what they're called but the ones they use to help with braking issues?

 

[Ewan M]

STP 05/01 5Q76 1036 Ilford - Newport Docks
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K00891/2023-01-05/detailed

And so we have the final 315 scrap move

 

[Razorblades]

837 and 857's journey to their demise? It also says 400 tonnes instead of the previous moves being 315? Does that mean they will put coaches or something on each end, not sure what they're called but the ones they use to help with braking issues?

Do we not think someone was being a bit playful when they quoted '315' tonnes previously?

 

[Foxxle]

Do we not think someone was being a bit playful when they quoted '315' tonnes previously?

It has said that on all the previous 315 scrap moves on RTT, except for this one, and of course 853 because it was only one unit.

 

[3973EXL]

STP 04/01 0H72 1200 Derby - Wembley HS 37884
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R00732/2023-01-04/detailed

STP 05/01 0L50 0749 Wembley HS - Ilford
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R05847/2023-01-05/detailed

STP 05/01 5Q76 1036 Ilford - Newport Docks
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K00891/2023-01-05/detailed

5Q76 dep 17 early 37884 315837/857

 

[33021]

The final 315s have left Ilford for the last time and now leaving the GE …. There closes a chapter of history

 

[Ewan M]

5Q76 dep 17 early via UM

Last time we’ll see 315s on the mainline too

 

[bluegoblin7]

1L at Homerton, though (held Channelsea for late running LO services).

https://twitter.com/beingjarley/status/1610967209769144321

 

[reddragon]

5 early passing Pangbourne on the mains



farewell class 315



It has entered Wales now!

 

[D365]

Last time we’ll see 315s on the mainline too

Sadly inclined to agree!

 

[315801]

I would probably say it depends on how much work 315856 will require before running again

 

[The_Train]

I would probably say it depends on how much work 315856 will require before running again

The concern with this unit is the fact that the group are moving a unit that has very recently been operating on the mainline (so presumably is very much serviceable) to a heritage line that seems to be in the middle of nowhere. I have been and remain very supportive of what the group are doing, but this move does seem a bit strange if they want it back on the mainline

 

[33021]

315856 could have continued running with a competent maintainer and an operator with a safety case from a mainline connected 25kV depot.
However 315856 is now off the power at a preserved railway and the priority for the group will be to stop it deteriorating from as withdrawn serviceable condition, unlike many groups who are trying to bring withdrawn with faults locos and stock back to working order.

I wish them all luck in their venture.

 

[306024]

The concern with this unit is the fact that the group are moving a unit that has very recently been operating on the mainline (so presumably is very much serviceable) to a heritage line that seems to be in the middle of nowhere. I have been and remain very supportive of what the group are doing, but this move does seem a bit strange if they want it back on the mainline

A case of any port in a storm. Nowhere nearer to home could oblige it seems, certainly not in the timescales required.

315856 could have continued running with a competent maintainer and an operator with a safety case from a mainline connected 25kV depot.

Plus a few other rather important components, none of which come for free in todays world.

I do hope moving the preserved unit to West of Swansea doesn‘t become a case of ’out of sight - out of mind’. While the 315s built up a minor cult following in their final year, I doubt many travelled from Llanelli to ride on one.

But to end on a positive note, at least one has been saved. The predecessor 306017 has survived due to the dedication of a few individuals, despite a few bumps along the way, so hopefully 315856 can emulate that.

 

[357]

However 315856 is now off the power at a preserved railway and the priority for the group will be to stop it deteriorating from as withdrawn serviceable condition, unlike many groups who are trying to bring withdrawn with faults locos and stock back to working order.

I wish them all luck in their venture.

The group are saying they will to restore it to full working as built condition.

We also shouldn't forget that the road move hasn't taken place yet.

 

[O L Leigh]

I doubt many travelled from Llanelli to ride on one.

Oh, I don't know. Some years ago I exchanged a few words with some spotters on the end of Bethnal Green platform, and they had travelled over from Wales to see the Liverpool Street suburban scene.

The group are saying they will to restore it to full working as built condition.

I'll be watching their progress with interest, but I think I'd rather they be a bit more realistic in their aims. Unless someone was rummaging through the skips out the back of Litchurch Lane around 15 years ago, they won't have the parts necessary to achieve this.

 

[357]

Unless someone was rummaging through the skips out the back of Litchurch Lane around 15 years ago, they won't have the parts necessary to achieve this.

And those who point this out get banned from their Facebook group!

 

[O L Leigh]

And those who point this out get banned from their Facebook group!

In which case, I wish good luck to all involved, both to those running the show and any who might be thinking of lending their support.

Why can I keep hearing Pte Fraser’s voice going around in my head…?

 

[Cowley]

Well we can probably wrap this up now that they’ve gone.

Thanks everyone

 

[Cowley]

Thread reopened for @DBS92042 to ask a question.

 

[DBS92042]

Thread reopened for @DBS92042 to ask a question.

Thank you

I've seen a photo recently of 315853 at CF Booths however it's undated so unsure of when it was taken. Is anyone able to confirm if 315853 is indeed still intact at CF Booths?