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CAF class 197 Civity for TfW: News and updates on introduction.

Bob Price

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Interesting to see 2 x 2 car and 1 x 3 car on the daily test run from Crewe to Llandudno. The past few runs have been multiple units. I am guessing TfW want to get as many with route miles on them as possible. Can never see numbers on these things though.
 
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Looking at RTT there are several multiple class 175 workings today, 4 and 5 car (ie 2+2 and 2+3).
They must have been freed up by new 197 and Mk4 workings, which is beneficial all round (until they are withdrawn!).
 
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LNW-GW Joint said:
Looking at RTT there are several multiple class 175 workings today, 4 and 5 car (ie 2+2 and 2+3).
They must have been freed up by new 197 and Mk4 workings, which is beneficial all round (until they are withdrawn!).
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The milford - Manchester, Manchester- Carmarthen, Cardiff - milford Haven diagrams are split between Carmarthen and Swansea due to engineering work which will save approx 4 hours on each round trip which may well help
 
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Appears to be 2 x 197s on Manchester to Llandudno and 1 on Liverpool today.
 
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TT-ONR-NRN said:
Pretty standard then no?
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Yes. Although there have been a few days where 3 diagrams on the Llandudno's have been 197's.

Hopefully it wont be too much longer before all 6 diagrams along with Liverpool-Chester and Conwy Valley are 197 which will cascade more 175s/sprinters to the South Wales routes to cover for the 170s going.
 
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Jez said:
Yes. Although there have been a few days where 3 diagrams on the Llandudno's have been 197's.

Hopefully it wont be too much longer before all 6 diagrams along with Liverpool-Chester and Conwy Valley are 197 which will cascade more 175s/sprinters to the South Wales routes to cover for the 170s going.
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Holyhead - Manchester Airport tends to be worked by 158s which interwork with the Cambrian so those can't change over yet... nothing stopping the rest of the Llandudno - Manchesters changing over unless they venture out of North Wales into other depots areas that don't sign them yet. More units probably needed to pass FFR first though.
 
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Is someone can help me to fill in some gaps I'd be grateful.

Does anyone know when 006 was delivered to Crewe?

Also, I think 005 and 020 are still in Donny, can anyone confirm.

Cheers
 

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6Gtraincrew said:
Is someone can help me to fill in some gaps I'd be grateful.

Does anyone know when 006 was delivered to Crewe?

Also, I think 005 and 020 are still in Donny, can anyone confirm.

Cheers
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It's hard to tell which 197s are at Donnington RFT because many do not have numbers so you can't ID them unfortunately.
 
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001 seems to be on a shuttle between Crewe and Chester today. Seen it pass the cameras twice now.
 
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6Gtraincrew said:
Is someone can help me to fill in some gaps I'd be grateful.

Does anyone know when 006 was delivered to Crewe?

Also, I think 005 and 020 are still in Donny, can anyone confirm.

Cheers
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Brilliant spreadsheet.
Do you have one for the /1s?
I’m sure I’ve seen 102.
 
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LNW-GW Joint said:
Looking at RTT there are several multiple class 175 workings today, 4 and 5 car (ie 2+2 and 2+3).
They must have been freed up by new 197 and Mk4 workings, which is beneficial all round (until they are withdrawn!).
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Yesterday and today, my daily commute has been on a 150. Normally it is a 175 or a 158. While there may be freed up 175s, there aren't enough extra to go around :)


Yesterday morning I was greeted by 150240 on the 0731 Holyhead to Birmingham International
On the way home 1D14 was 150240 again. Normally a 158.

Yesterday 150257 was on 1V94 Holyhead to Cardiff Central. That is usually a 2 or 3 car 175 from Holyhead.

This morning it was 150267 on 1V94.


I'm not exactly sure what is going on. There were some cancellations yesterday.
 

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With most of the Mark 4 Manchester services starting and finishing at Cardiff Central, what are the chances of us still getting 5 car (3+2) 197s between Cardiff and Swansea on the connections?
 
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