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LNER - Apprentice Driver - Kings Cross & Newcastle (05/09/24)

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NSEWonderer

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I do wonder how long they'd give one to get their certificates sent by an exam board. Completely forgot they request the documents immediately after the assessments.
 

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Got to do my video interview soon. I don't have my certificates as of yet, so I will need to contact LNER directly. I will hopefully have them by the time a DMI rolls through. Instead, I sent them a statement of exam results from my secondary school that has all the relevant official details.
 

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Is it situational judgement or a mix this time?
It's usually an SJT followed by Error checking and then lastly the Verbal Reasoning test. Pass all of those and you'll need to put in your GCSE result certificates or statement(Must show you've achieve a C in Maths and English or equivalent) before a video interview.
 

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Edinburgh when a campaign for it comes out would be the closest depot I believe.
 

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Just applied for LNER, and remembered to remove personal info off CV this time as I noticed they have a section About it also

I do wonder how long they'd give one to get their certificates sent by an exam board. Completely forgot they request the documents immediately after the assessments.
Yeah I’m wondering too as I don’t know where mine are as it was 14 years ago!
 

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Has anyone done the online tests yet? Last time I did the SJT, Error Checking and then straight into the Verbal reasoning. This time no verbal reasoning, anyone else?
 

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Has anyone done the online tests yet? Last time I did the SJT, Error Checking and then straight into the Verbal reasoning. This time no verbal reasoning, anyone else?
If you didn't get verbal reasoning you may have failed error checking. Verbal reasoning came instantly for me.

Was the SJT (the one right after the application is submitted) ☹️
Ah man, the SJT can be tricky interms of scoring exactly what they want, also on the CV bit they don't mind the details EMR exclude as they don't seem to operate a blind shortlisting like EMR which means they'll use the Video interview for the shortlisting. I'd say the slight positive here is that you have time to find those pesky certificates or order somewhat replacements from the Exam Boards. If not I know you can do functional skills courses which are like 3 day courses and are equivalent to the C grades required. I found my results statement and used that which shows my Grades plus linked the exam officers email incase. That should be enough but I also have the certificates on the way.

My young carelessness has cost about £180 but hell its nothing in comparison to any opportunity on the front office of the Iron roads!
 
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If you didn't get verbal reasoning you may have failed error checking. Verbal reasoning came instantly for me.


Ah man, the SJT can be tricky interms of scoring exactly what they want, also on the CV bit they don't mind the details EMR exclude as they don't seem to operate a blind shortlisting like EMR which means they'll use the Video interview for the shortlisting. I'd say the slight positive here is that you have time to find those pesky certificates or order somewhat replacements from the Exam Boards. If not I know you can do functional skills courses which are like 3 day courses and are equivalent to the C grades required. I found my results statement and used that which shows my Grades plus linked the exam officers email incase. That should be enough but I also have the certificates on the way.

My young carelessness has cost about £180 but hell its nothing in comparison to any opportunity on the front office of the Iron roads!
Good luck! Yeah the SJT is tricky. Passed GA’s one but other than the holding pool never got anything back. And on the job link it does say they prefer to remove as they operate it blind as well
 

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Good luck! Yeah the SJT is tricky. Passed GA’s one but other than the holding pool never got anything back. And on the job link it does say they prefer to remove as they operate it blind as well
Ah fairs. Yeah those GA holding pools can be quite a swim, I'm still in one myself haha.
 

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Is their anyway to check if you have lost both your 2 strikes. I did my assessment about 10 years ago.. I definitely remember failing once but the 2nd time I am not sure if it was just the benchmark required by TOC. I tried emailing the OPC no response.

I don't want to waste their time and mine by applying and then be told I can't sit the assessment.

Thanks.
 

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Is their anyway to check if you have lost both your 2 strikes. I did my assessment about 10 years ago.. I definitely remember failing once but the 2nd time I am not sure if it was just the benchmark required by TOC. I tried emailing the OPC no response.

I don't want to waste their time and mine by applying and then be told I can't sit the assessment.

Thanks.
Just apply anyway, if you have lost both lives you have nothing to lose but everything to gain. If you get to the point where they were gonna invite you to do the Psychometric Tests they would check the database via your National Insurance no, if you’d failed twice you’d find out then. The OPC, despite being the supposed custodian of the Psychometric Test database/whatever, they are next to useless when you contact them unfortunately.
 

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OPC will only host psychometrics and, as a result, will only be obliged to share results directly with the TOC, as they are the ones paying for its slots and thus their client. Not every TOC will use OPC for psychometric testing, as a few have their own registered facilities that have been approved to conduct testing to the standard and with the necessary equipment.

The TOC is the one that will access the national database and tell you about your life, etc., and where you stand with the particular TOC results-wise, as you are the one they are dealing with directly. This is to avoid any conflict of interest or misinformation between the two parties involved.
 

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If you didn't get verbal reasoning you may have failed error checking. Verbal reasoning came instantly for me.


Ah man, the SJT can be tricky interms of scoring exactly what they want, also on the CV bit they don't mind the details EMR exclude as they don't seem to operate a blind shortlisting like EMR which means they'll use the Video interview for the shortlisting. I'd say the slight positive here is that you have time to find those pesky certificates or order somewhat replacements from the Exam Boards. If not I know you can do functional skills courses which are like 3 day courses and are equivalent to the C grades required. I found my results statement and used that which shows my Grades plus linked the exam officers email incase. That should be enough but I also have the certificates on the way.

My young carelessness has cost about £180 but hell its nothing in comparison to any opportunity on the front office of the Iron roads!
I spoke too soon the email arrived shortly after
 

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Have completed all the online tests when completing application, I’m now at the stage where it won’t let me submit without sending GCSE proof. I sat them over 30 years ago and the certificates are well and truly lost! Don‘t know which board they were sat with. Any ideas of a way around this?… I’ll try and send an email and see what they say….. maybe I’ll be classed as too old for an apprenticeship!?!

Also, I noticed someone on here mentioned about sending a blind CV? I looked for that in the section to upload CV but didn’t see a mention of that. Was that stated? Perhaps I need to go to specsavers if so!
 

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Have completed all the online tests when completing application, I’m now at the stage where it won’t let me submit without sending GCSE proof. I sat them over 30 years ago and the certificates are well and truly lost! Don‘t know which board they were sat with. Any ideas of a way around this?… I’ll try and send an email and see what they say….. maybe I’ll be classed as too old for an apprenticeship!?!

Also, I noticed someone on here mentioned about sending a blind CV? I looked for that in the section to upload CV but didn’t see a mention of that. Was that stated? Perhaps I need to go to specsavers if so!
I didn't see the blind cv bit myself on their website, as for certificates LNER are pretty strict I believe on having relevant proof of the C grade or above in English and Maths.

You could try a 3 day function skills course or ideally if you have any peers or friends still with their certificates that sat the exams with you it will show the exam board on their statement of results.

Alternatively if the school is still around they may still have you on the system somewhere.
 

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I didn't see the blind cv bit myself on their website, as for certificates LNER are pretty strict I believe on having relevant proof of the C grade or above in English and Maths.

You could try a 3 day function skills course or ideally if you have any peers or friends still with their certificates that sat the exams with you it will show the exam board on their statement of results.

Alternatively if the school is still around they may still have you on the system somewhere.
That’s a thought I might email the school. Never know my luck.
Do you know if by getting as far as the adding English/maths certs on the application, after completing the tests they got us to do, does that mean the tests were passed or can we still be told we failed them. (Sjt, errors and the comprehension passage ones)?
 

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That’s a thought I might email the school. Never know my luck.
Do you know if by getting as far as the adding English/maths certs on the application, after completing the tests they got us to do, does that mean the tests were passed or can we still be told we failed them. (Sjt, errors and the comprehension passage ones)?
If you've managed to get all 3 tests that means you've not failed at least the first two. If you get to the add certificate / proof of grades stage it means you've passed all 3 online tests.
 

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If you've managed to get all 3 tests that means you've not failed at least the first two. If you get to the add certificate / proof of grades stage it means you've passed all 3 online tests.
Ok thanks. I managed to pass all 3 of them then but stuck with the supplying of the certs issue right now. Fired of an email to my old school hoping and emailed lner to let them know. Think it says i have 5 days to supply the certs.
 

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If you've managed to get all 3 tests that means you've not failed at least the first two. If you get to the add certificate / proof of grades stage it means you've passed all 3 online tests.
Amazing, wasn’t sure if I passed the last test or not, but have got given the option to add proof of grades
 

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