13:10 Weymouth -> Gloucester

[CC 72100]

Hi,

Does anyone know what DMU is usually booked for the above working? I am travelling home from Uni in Exeter on Friday, and just wondered if it is normally a 150 or a 158? I'd much rather have the latter - the class 150 is the only DMU I detest more than the voyager which I will have Exeter to Bristol!

Many Thanks,

AdamW

 

[ValleyLines142]

Potentially it could be any of the two, although I would probably aim for a 150 sorry!

 

[heart-of-wessex]

The unit starts from Westbury at 0638 for Gloucester, then works to Weymouth for the 1310 to Gloucester. It's the 0644 from Trowbridge which I have done before, and once it was a Class 158 but often a Class 150 otherwise

 

[TEW]

Only 158 booked to Weymouth Mondays-Fridays is the 1450 Great Malvern-Weymouth and 2021 Weymouth-Bristol Temple Meads.

 

[PHILIPE]

Booked 150 and attaches another at Bristol tm for strengthening, especially for the return 16 41 Gloucester to Weymouth.

 

[CC 72100]

Look like I'll have the delights of a 150 to look forward to then! I dear God hope that at is a 150/2, a 150/1 on that run would be unappealing indeed! Will report back of course.

 

[ValleyLines142]

I'd much prefer a 444 to Southampton and then a 158 up!

 

[CC 72100]

It's ok Dan, I'm only on it Bristol to Glos, but feel sorry for the poor folks who do the whole 3 hours on it!

My ideal used to be when I had no lectures on a friday, so HST to Bristol, for 158 forwards. Voyager then 150 forward doesn't have the same appeal!

 

[Schnellzug]

I've seen two-car 158s on it fairly often recently, although, as usual with FGW, it could be anything including 150/1s on occasion.

 

[ValleyLines142]

It's ok Dan, I'm only on it Bristol to Glos, but feel sorry for the poor folks who do the whole 3 hours on it!

My ideal used to be when I had no lectures on a friday, so HST to Bristol, for 158 forwards. Voyager then 150 forward doesn't have the same appeal!

Voyagers all the way! I suppose you could go on another journey booked for a 158.

 

[VTPreston_Tez]

FGW don't run 158s very often here. I've only rode 150s and if I'm not hallucinating I think a 152 one time? Maybe a 154? I remember a train that reminds me of 158s when Wessex ran this line though can I get clarification?
So basically the 150's lot that give you backache and have no tables. :P

 

[MidnightFlyer]

FGW don't run 158s very often here. I've only rode 150s and if I'm not hallucinating I think a 152 one time? Maybe a 154? I remember a train that reminds me of 158s when Wessex ran this line though can I get clarification?
So basically the 150's lot that give you backache and have no tables. :P

152? The failed plan for 156s?!

Some FGW 150s have tables in bays of four...

 

[VTPreston_Tez]

150's with tables? I've never seen them
So 152's do exist? I wasn't sure but think I've rode one from Weymouth to Bristol (terminus Gloucester)

 

[MidnightFlyer]

150's with tables? I've never seen them
So 152's do exist? I wasn't sure but think I've rode one from Weymouth to Bristol (terminus Gloucester)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/FGW_Class_150.JPG - This seems to suggest so!

152s from what I can gather were some sort of failed plan for converted 156 units, but I'm not 100% clear on what it was about. Certainly to the best of my knowledge never existed in reality though.

 

[sprinterguy]

152s from what I can gather were some sort of failed plan for converted 156 units, but I'm not 100% clear on what it was about. Certainly to the best of my knowledge never existed in reality though.

Contemporary issues of Modern Railways report that in the early nineties Regional Railways were so pleased with their fancy newly-converted class 153s that they considered additionally splitting up as many as 25 class 156 units into up to fifty single car units. However, the sources I've seen report that they were provisionally titled as Class 154 (Also used for the sole class 158 testbed, 154002). Wikipedia notes that these units would have been class 152 though.

So no, there has never been a class 152. And only one, very short lived, class 154 for that matter. So something "a bit like a 158" operated by Wessex Trains would probably have been a 158.

 

[CC 72100]

152? The failed plan for 156s?!

Some FGW 150s have tables in bays of four...

Yeah, some of the 150/2s do, well, the one to Topsham the other day certianly did!

 

[TEW]

I've seen two-car 158s on it fairly often recently, although, as usual with FGW, it could be anything including 150/1s on occasion.

The 2-car 158s don't have diagrams at the moment, there's only two of them and they seem to turn up on pretty much any diagram, often instead of a Class 150 which can see them work to Weymouth.
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Look like I'll have the delights of a 150 to look forward to then! I dear God hope that at is a 150/2, a 150/1 on that run would be unappealing indeed! Will report back of course.

150/1s are fairly common to Weymouth nowadays, the 150/1s often seen to end up on the most inappropriate services such as the long distance Weymouth, Cornwall and Southampton services. They do tend to move round though, so Cornwall will have lots of 150/1s for a while then Bristol will have lots of 150/1s for a while then Exeter.
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Yeah, some of the 150/2s do, well, the one to Topsham the other day certianly did!

All the 150/2s have tables except for 202 and 216 which transferred from London Midland. Makes up around half of the overall 150 fleet.

 

[CC 72100]

So it was as I assumed a voyager (still as bad as ever) to Bristol and I'm currently sat on a pair of 150/1s, 122 and 101 if you're interested, both looking very dated inside and out with the old central trains livery!

 

[RobShipway]

Could have been worse, if FGW still had the class 142's doing the route which I believe happened from time to time in the past before they got moved back to Northern.

 

[PHILIPE]

142s have never worked the route as they were all confined to the Exeter area only. 143s have worked the route between Bristol and Gloucester but long past now.

 

[RobShipway]

142s have never worked the route as they were all confined to the Exeter area only. 143s have worked the route between Bristol and Gloucester but long past now.

I remember being at Bristol Temple meads one Saturday afternoon, a couple of years back and the train for Weymouth was a class 142 but I cannot find the details at the moment of which of the class worked the route as I think it was used in place of the booked class 143.

 

[PHILIPE]

I remember being at Bristol Temple meads one Saturday afternoon, a couple of years back and the train for Weymouth was a class 142 but I cannot find the details at the moment of which of the class worked the route as I think it was used in place of the booked class 143.

142s were confined to Exeter area and only Exeter Drivers had traction knowledge so they were restricted over the routes they would work. 143s, nor 142s for that matter, cannot work to Weymouth due to route availability (banned on Southern)

 

[TEW]

143s never went to Weymouth either, pacers are banned on the Southern Region. 143s did used to work Westbury-Bristol, Bristol-Severn Beach, Bristol-Cardiff, Bristol-Taunton and Bristol-Gloucester though, in fact that was all they did before 2008 when they were transferred to the Exeter area. 142s have been in service in Bristol only a handful of times with FGW. Mainly on the Taunton-Cardiff corridor although one made it on a Bristol-Westbury service once. Crewing issues made it difficult to run one Bristol-Westbury and impossible to run one Yeovil Pen Mill-Weymouth. Only Exeter crews ever learnt Class 142s.

 

[Drsatan]

143s never went to Weymouth either, pacers are banned on the Southern Region.

I think in 2006 a 143 ran to Eastleigh via Southampton Central under its own power to enter Eastleigh Works, so I'm assuming NR grants dispensations for special occasions.

 

[Lrd]

I think in 2006 a 143 ran to Eastleigh via Southampton Central under its own power to enter Eastleigh Works, so I'm assuming NR grants dispensations for special occasions.

I heard they went via Romsey, and remember reading a comment on another thread that it took a lot of paperwork.

 

[PHILIPE]

I think in 2006 a 143 ran to Eastleigh via Southampton Central under its own power to enter Eastleigh Works, so I'm assuming NR grants dispensations for special occasions.

Correct, special dispensation given.

 

[ValleyLines142]

143s never went to Weymouth either, pacers are banned on the Southern Region. 143s did used to work Westbury-Bristol, Bristol-Severn Beach, Bristol-Cardiff, Bristol-Taunton and Bristol-Gloucester though, in fact that was all they did before 2008 when they were transferred to the Exeter area. 142s have been in service in Bristol only a handful of times with FGW. Mainly on the Taunton-Cardiff corridor although one made it on a Bristol-Westbury service once. Crewing issues made it difficult to run one Bristol-Westbury and impossible to run one Yeovil Pen Mill-Weymouth. Only Exeter crews ever learnt Class 142s.

143s work Cardiff services. I've never seen or heard of a 142 making it to Cardiff or even Bristol. They all seem to be confined in the Exeter area.

 

[heart-of-wessex]

I've heard about the 142 that went to Exeter via Westbury or something, but otherwise I have seen a 142 at Bristol but was in Middle Siding 1 (or could have been 2), but don't know what it's next turn was, but it obviously made it to Bristol on something...

 

[TEW]

143s work Cardiff services. I've never seen or heard of a 142 making it to Cardiff or even Bristol. They all seem to be confined in the Exeter area.

143s don't work to Cardiff any more, they had a few runs until December but since 2008 most of the 143 diagrams were around Exeter, now they all are. 142s were always diagrammed to be around the Exeter area but they strayed from time to time, fairly sure one has reached Cardiff. Bristol has been reached many times in service, Swindon has a few times as well. Of course, no 142s now.

 

[Schnellzug]

143s never went to Weymouth either, pacers are banned on the Southern Region. 143s did used to work Westbury-Bristol, Bristol-Severn Beach, Bristol-Cardiff, Bristol-Taunton and Bristol-Gloucester though, in fact that was all they did before 2008 when they were transferred to the Exeter area. 142s have been in service in Bristol only a handful of times with FGW. Mainly on the Taunton-Cardiff corridor although one made it on a Bristol-Westbury service once. Crewing issues made it difficult to run one Bristol-Westbury and impossible to run one Yeovil Pen Mill-Weymouth. Only Exeter crews ever learnt Class 142s.

there was an incident fairly recnetly when, I think it was 142+150 worked Exeter-Swindon, was it, vice HST (I love jargon), on an early morning Paddington serbvice.