to confirm no 455s booked to Horsham (they require guards from Dorking) from the May timetable change?
Any photos of 455s at Warnham/Ockley/Holmewood welcome
Nope, it was an ECS moveWas this in passenger service?
I know i seem to always be at war with the PRM-TSI "improvements" but do we know why the piercing door open chime has to chime 5 times? Is that a recommendation. ?
I struggle to see how FIVE is more useful than one or maybe two. It is quite piercing to us drivers who have our windows open! I expect comments about me being selfish but you have to admit 5 is excessive.
Quoting from the regulation:
"When a door is released for opening a signal shall be given that is clearly audible and visible to persons inside and outside the train. This alert signal shall last for a minimum of five seconds unless the door is operated, in which case it may cease after 3 seconds."
and
"Door opening — Characteristics
— A slow pulse multi tone (up to 2 pulses per second) of 2 tones emitted sequential."
So it could be worse than just 5 beeps. That said, the reasoning is sensible, "The sound source for door alert signals shall be located in the area local to the control device or, if there is no such control device, adjacent to the doorway." - having it go for 5 seconds gives visually impaired people a chance to find the button and press it.
I wonder if their are regs about the decibels as it is loud and piercing.
Quoting from the regulation:
"When a door is released for opening a signal shall be given that is clearly audible and visible to persons inside and outside the train. This alert signal shall last for a minimum of five seconds unless the door is operated, in which case it may cease after 3 seconds."
and
"Door opening — Characteristics
— A slow pulse multi tone (up to 2 pulses per second) of 2 tones emitted sequential."
So it could be worse than just 5 beeps. That said, the reasoning is sensible, "The sound source for door alert signals shall be located in the area local to the control device or, if there is no such control device, adjacent to the doorway." - having it go for 5 seconds gives visually impaired people a chance to find the button and press it.
The class 315 beeps are pretty much perfect for the job IMO. Loud and clear, but not SCREECHING. These new chimes are particularly grating when one has had a stressful day at work or school or college, and/or has a headache, and has to travel home on one of these for 30 minutes plus. Seems as though we are a very long way from escaping them.
These new regulations are really extra to be honest. Why can't we just have a ding-ding like they used to have on the networkers?
It is rather ironic considering that at some stations such as East Croydon, they seem to turn off the automated announcements after a certain time, yet the ear piercing beeps still ring on throughout the night. The DfT's regulations are getting worse and worse.Ive mentioned before about the affect all these beeps, buzzers and announcements possibly have on the subconscious. Basically Noise pollution.
These sounds are there to 'grab' your attention, alert you, surprise you and speed up your heart rate in the process.
If they are constantly thrown at you they will make you uptight, irritable and uncomfortable. Some people get used to them, but many dont.
Your journey would be more comfortable with less of them. You may even enjoy it, especially after a hard day at work.
We must find a happy medium.
The door tones on the 377/6/7, 379 and 387s are really nice sounding. Alerting, but also nice and soft on the ear.
Has it become clearer yet how many daily 455 diagrams there will be?Does anyone have any info as to which routes the 455s will be used on from May? RTT suggests the following routes (75 mph schedules):
London Bridge to Caterham via Tulse Hill,
London Bridge to Beckenham Junction,
London Bridge to Coulsdon Town via Sydenham,
Peak hour London Bridge to Wimbledon
This equates to 32 units, assuming all are pairs. Leasing 46 units for 32 diagrams is rather excessive...
Has it become clearer yet how many daily 455 diagrams there will be?
It is rather ironic considering that at some stations such as East Croydon, they seem to turn off the automated announcements after a certain time, yet the ear piercing beeps still ring on throughout the night. The DfT's regulations are getting worse and worse.
In addition I'm a little sad as I will probably never get to ride a 455 down to Horsham and experience the speed between Dorking and Holmwood
Ive mentioned before about the affect all these beeps, buzzers and announcements possibly have on the subconscious. Basically Noise pollution.
These sounds are there to 'grab' your attention, alert you, surprise you and speed up your heart rate in the process.
If they are constantly thrown at you they will make you uptight, irritable and uncomfortable. Some people get used to them, but many dont.
Your journey would be more comfortable with less of them. You may even enjoy it, especially after a hard day at work.
We must find a happy medium.