Bromley boy
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Accusing those with opposing views of being trolls doesn't help advance debate.
Agreed....
Folk are allowed to be clueless misguided jingoists. Doesn't mean they are deliberately trolling.
... but neither does name calling.
With my vote, I achieved my aim of removing a Tory Prime Minister who had forgotten that he was elected to lead our representative democracy.
So you voted leave, not because you wanted to leave, but because you wanted to remove Cameron, even though, prior to the vote, it was by no means certain that he would resign in the event of a leave victory? That seems like strange reasoning to me.
Leaving the EU should never have been a referendum decision. Far to complex a decision to be a simple in/out vote. It should have either been a manifesto pledge or a government bill.
Luckily for you it was a manifesto pledge of the government returned at the last GE. We also have clarity that leaving means leaving the EU and it’s major institutions.
If the public had wanted an anti Brexit government they could have elected the Lib Dems.
I think it is fair to say that there was some uncertainty, such that a no-deal Brexit was within parameters. I didn't think it would come to that but given how obtuse the EU's negotiation team has been - they make those who negotiated the Treaty of Versailles look like flexible negotiators - it would not surprise me if we ended up with no deal. All I can say about the so-called Lord Mandelson is that he is dependent on the EU for his pension - so beware of vested remain interests!
Agreed and the government should have been preparing for that (undesirable) possibility from the outset, and negotiating robustly on that basis, with payment of the “divorce bill” being contingent on an acceptable deal being reached.