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krus_aragon
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I really dislike that putdown (whether I agree with your general sentiment or not). @Cardiff123 already made a more constructive reply yesterday. I don't feel that you're adding much to the conversation, other than coming across as being adversarial and dismissive.
I know that this is a very emotive issue, but I'm sure you can give a more reasoned response than that. And if you want to discuss the issues of EU funding in depth, there's a thread here for that very purpose.
107, from memory.
PHILIPE
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Lot of content but can't find any mention of where the paint shop is.
uxm
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Can confirm that is Chester TMD
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Thanks. Wasn't sure if it was at their Depot or at Arriva Traincare Crewe. All mod cons available, obviously
PaulHarding150
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How long does/should it take to relivery a train like a 175? Given that this photo was taken 24-36 hours ago and we’re assuming nothing bar possibly a deep clean is happening inside could this train be out of service for a week?
I’d be interested in any sightings before the new franchise.
It seems almost criminal to keep a unit like that out of action given the overcrowding experienced by people all over the franchise.
PHILIPE
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It's a one off painting for the moment for the new franchise publicity launch
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Paint or vinyl?
anamyd
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As you do!!! 
I'm guessing new seat upholstery will be going in as well...?
I'm guessing new seat upholstery will be going in as well...?PaulHarding150
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OK. But that doesn’t answer my question. A week before the handover it looks done. Will this unit be in use next week or is it out of action until 14/15th November?
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Paint is indicated by the contents of Page #807
PHILIPE
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I can't answer that, I'm afraid. I know nothing more than the link in #Post 807 and haven't seen anything put out from TFW
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Alstom is doing the repaints for the 175 NOT Arriva
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Which is a photo taken from elsewhere and states “in the paint shop” when it is clearly just in Chester depot.
So my question stands!
iantherev
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Aber in Caerphilly used to be Aber Junction Halt, the nearby Aber Junction being where the line to Aber(tridwr) and Senghenydd branched off.
Can confirm this now. Nice shiny new numbers on both ends. I will add, all the work completed as it stands is purely external. Does look good.
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It's a vinyl wrap
plannerman
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It was parked outside Chester depot this afternoon, seen from the cycle path. It doesn't wow me, it's the same generic white with coloured bits as every other operator.
trainophile
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Booking engines still showing Arriva Trains Wales even into December.
AlexNL
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As far as I know, that's because the industry data model for TOC reference data doesn't have start and end dates. After the handover from ATW to TfW Rail, the reference data will have to be updated.
Reliveried 175 spotted between Manchester and Milford Haven. Good to see that it’s not just sitting in a depot for a week.
Also, it’s difficult to see, but the interior looks unchanged as far as I can see.
https://twitter.com/transport_wales/status/1049230555819253760?s=21
Also, it’s difficult to see, but the interior looks unchanged as far as I can see.
https://twitter.com/transport_wales/status/1049230555819253760?s=21
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samuelmorris
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Tidy livery, but a little dull isn't it?
Philip
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They've gone for the white skirt again like they had with the first ATW livery on these. They'll look mucky after a while, but it's a smart livery nonetheless.
AlexNL
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Maybe a little, but with the TfW colour scheme (white, black, red and grey) and design language (simple shapes, focus on typography) you're bound to get a bland livery rather quickly.
Not that that's a bad thing, per sé. If the style applied to that 175 is applied to everything within TfW's reach, it will result in a very consistent image and a very strong brand.
Bletchleyite
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Actually, you know where else that livery is nicked from, sort of?
SBB EW IV model
SBB EW IV model
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Also noticeable that the Great Anglia 170s aren't going to need a repaint when they transfer!Actually, you know where else that livery is nicked from, sort of?
SBB EW IV model
I'd love to see more Stadler's in the UK, not just at Greater Anglia or Wales.Actually, you know where else that livery is nicked from, sort of?
SBB EW IV model
grumpyoldman01
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I've not been involved in EU funding for many years, but back when I was, although it may have been publicised as being "for the south wales metro as a whole", the actual funding application would have been far more detailed
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