Northern 333 refurbishments

LOL The Irony · 21 Apr 2019

AMD said:
Nope, same people managing the 333 refurbs as the rest of the fleet refurbs.

I was told that Siemens were dictating quality control, not Northern which is why 001 took so long to re-enter service.

Harvey B said:
I guess your on about the sprinters that haven't received a full interior refurb yet (no new seat covers or linos)

I'm talking about the fully refurbed ones. They didn't strip interior panels to paint them on some trains, they just left them in situ and it's caused cracks in the paint to appear. Poor job and those who did it (might be Brodies) should be stripped of the contract.

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Harvey B · 21 Apr 2019

LOL The Irony said:
I'm talking about the fully refurbed ones. They didn't strip interior panels to paint them on some trains, they just left them in situ and it's caused cracks in the paint to appear. Poor job and those who did it (might be Brodies) should be stripped of the contract.

I don't know anything about contractors but I think the contractors are different

LOL The Irony said:
I was told that Siemens were dictating quality control, not Northern which is why 001 took so long to re-enter service.

this must also be the reason why some seats in 333001 look different

43096 · 21 Apr 2019

LOL The Irony said:
Poor job and those who did it (might be Brodies) should be stripped of the contract.

Why? How do you know that wasn't in the spec from the customer?

George Buckley · 23 Apr 2019

Are all the seats in the current refurbished 333s the same.

Harvey B · 23 Apr 2019

George Buckley said:
Are all the seats in the current refurbished 333s the same.

They are same designs that all other Northern trains have except 333001 has some seats that don't have the light blue parts at each side (don't ask me to explain what I mean). I walked through the first two carriages of 333001 and i put a video of it on Twitter so I'll leave it here: https://mobile.twitter.com/Harvey_Butlin03/status/1118537034166153217

Allwinter_Kit · 23 Apr 2019

I must say that the refurbed 333s are very much like new. They are very pleasant to both see and use! The contrast with the unrefurbed 333 (unknown) I caught yesterday was very noticeable. Looking forward to seeing if the 331s match it when they turn up - currently the refresh is enough (although I wouldn't say no to a few more carriages...)

Also I caught a 32X up in Glasgow over the Easter weekend (Scotstounhill - Partick) and it was light years ahead in terms of quality compared to the rammed metro-density 32Xs on the Aire-Wharfe Triangle!

Ianigsy · 23 Apr 2019

333011 was in Platform 2 at Leeds today ready to form the 1703 Ilkley, but with a "Not to be Moved" marker on it. After a while, one of the doors opened to admit a fitter- no idea what the problem was but depending on your point of view, either the 1703 was cancelled and everybody piled on to the 1715, or the 1715 was cancelled and the 1703 ran in its path. Tracing the diagram back, there seems to have been a unit failed at Skipton mid-afternoon which caused the loss of a set.

Harvey B · 23 Apr 2019

Ianigsy said:
333011 was in Platform 2 at Leeds today ready to form the 1703 Ilkley, but with a "Not to be Moved" marker on it. After a while, one of the doors opened to admit a fitter- no idea what the problem was but depending on your point of view, either the 1703 was cancelled and everybody piled on to the 1715, or the 1715 was cancelled and the 1703 ran in its path. Tracing the diagram back, there seems to have been a unit failed at Skipton mid-afternoon which caused the loss of a set.

I think the latter was the most likely because I don't think 333011 would have failed on it's first day in service

1D53 · 23 Apr 2019

Harvey B said:
I think the latter was the most likely because I don't think 333011 would have failed on it's first day in service

011 was the failure.

Harvey B · 23 Apr 2019

1D53 said:
011 was the failure.

I wonder why that decided to fail, 001 and 013 haven't failed yet

61653 HTAFC · 24 Apr 2019

Harvey B said:
I wonder why that decided to fail, 001 and 013 haven't failed yet

Trains fail for all sorts of reasons, not always related to when it last had a fettle.

43096 · 24 Apr 2019

Harvey B said:
I wonder why that decided to fail, 001 and 013 haven't failed yet

Trains don’t “decide” to fail, they are not sentient beings!

Harvey B · 24 Apr 2019

43096 said:
Trains don’t “decide” to fail, they are not sentient beings!

I didn't mean it literally

Harvey B · 24 Apr 2019

Does anyone know when 333015 is due back?

xotGD · 25 Apr 2019

Harvey B said:
Does anyone know when 333015 is due back?

I saw one end poking out of the shed at Holbeck this morning, with no set number applied yet.

Harvey B · 27 Apr 2019

Have any 333s gone to holbeck yet? If so which one went?

George Buckley · 27 Apr 2019

xotGD said:
I saw one end poking out of the shed at Holbeck this morning, with no set number applied yet.

According to other forums 333 015 has come out of Holbeck and returned to Neville Hill earlier today (27-4-19).

Harvey B · 27 Apr 2019

George Buckley said:
According to other forums 333 015 has come out of Holbeck and returned to Neville Hill earlier today (27-4-19).

Did any go to holbeck after?

darloscott · 27 Apr 2019

Realtimetrains suggests one did indeed, arrived 1420.
No idea which unit though sorry

Harvey B · 27 Apr 2019

darloscott said:
Realtimetrains suggests one did indeed, arrived 1420.
No idea which unit though sorry

Thanks

Harvey B · 27 Apr 2019

Does anyone have any idea which unit went to holbeck today?

superkev · 3 May 2019

Harvey B said:
Does anyone have any idea which unit went to holbeck today?

333 012 is at Holbeck.
Sadly I hear recently repainted 333 001 has been crudely covered in graffiti by some pebble brain. Pity they didn't get hold of the overhead.
K

Harvey B · 3 May 2019

superkev said:
Sadly I hear recently repainted 333 001 has been crudely covered in graffiti by some pebble brain. Pity they didn't get hold of the overhead.
K

Who would even do that? (mind you thats a dumb question bearing in mind that Neville Hill is located right next to a rough area of Leeds )

superkev · 3 May 2019

Harvey B said:
Who would even do that? (mind you thats a dumb question bearing in mind that Neville Hill is located right next to a rough area of Leeds )

It wasnt at any depot or Neville hill

Harvey B · 3 May 2019

superkev said:
It wasnt at Nevill hill

Where was it when it got vandlised then?

Ilkley333 · 3 May 2019

Harvey B said:
Where was it when it got vandlised then?

It was at Ilkley at 0630 this morning (looking a bit sad) but I don’t know where it had come from/whether it had been in Ilkley overnight.

superkev · 4 May 2019

Ilkley333 said:
It was at Ilkley at 0630 this morning (looking a bit sad) but I don’t know where it had come from/whether it had been in Ilkley overnight.

I suspect it was the set parked overnight at Forster Sq. Perhaps the security man was asleep.
K

Harvey B · 4 May 2019

superkev said:
I suspect it was the set parked overnight at Forster Sq. Perhaps the security man was asleep.
K

Regardless of where it was parked, the unit will come back in a bad state

superkev · 4 May 2019

I'm sure it will back soon after a great deal of expensive time consuming hard work by a cleaning team.
Why these people spent huge amounts on paint, risk a criminal record or jail (never get a decent job again), push up fares as well as stay out all night I'm at a total loss. Pity they didn't touch the overhead.
If anyone knows who uses the "earth" tag I'm sure northern of the BTP would be very interested.
K

Harvey B · 4 May 2019

Any updates on 3330111?

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