MadCommuter
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EMT tweeting that a train is picking up crew and heading to Kettering to then go to London.
That's no good for passengers who intended to make a connection at STP, many will have been after a cross London journey at what should have been a very reasonable time of day. Hopefully hotels and renumeration are in order, but for that many people I don't know how the staff will be able to address them all.
I think those of us sat comfortably in our armchairs at home with a pleasant Friday night drink to hand have to offer all praise to those staff (and the firemen etc) out working in the rain and floodwater to assist the passengers. Well done you all.
No food or water on 1C52 for some hours, all suitcases had to be left behind on evacuation.
Can't answer that one, it's likely a very unpredictable task.How does the railway deal with reuniting people with them? Unlike on a plane, they don't know who's on board.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O13763/2019/06/14/advancethis was the service to London at 0030. Looks to have been stationary for 40+ mins at Luton airport parkway.
To give a bit more background to this:
INCIDENT 1: TRESSPASS
Around 15:00, there were reports of tresspass just south of Leicester.
Trains began diverting through Corby.
Civil police asked for the line to be stopped, but BTP said no. Trains ro run at caution.
However Cross Country trains in the area stopped anyway with one XC driver out trying to talk the guy down.
Civil police stopped road traffic while waiting for a negotiator.
By 16:00 tresspasser was off the line / trains running "normally".
INCIDENT 2: 1B53
Local BBC News reports 1B53 passengers had an 8 hour journey to London. From RTT, it looks like this train called at Leicester but then diverted to Corby. Whether it then somehow came back through Leicester (picking up the 180 mins delay time), I don't know - this conflicts with the official report below.
INCIDENT 3: THE CORBY AREA
16:01: Driver of 1D43 reports bank slip and water above rail head near Corby line. Driver is currently checking track.
16:15: 1D43 trapped as rear bogie completely cover in silt.
16:29: Driver of 1C52 reports water is freely running and covering the down (towards Leicester) line. Water is rising on the (towards London) line and covering the rail in certain areas but passable at 5mph.
16:40: (towards London) line to be cleared at extreme caution by 1C52/1C55. 1B53 (the last in the queue) will be used to evacuate 1D43.
16:45: 1C52 now reports that the track beyond 1D43 is completely under water and they are unable to pass. Both lines now at a compete job stop.
16:50: Network Rail staff arrived on site. Three trains (1C52, 1C55, 1B53) stood on (towards London) line. One train (1D43) stood on (towards Leicester) line.
REPORT FROM PERSON ON 1B53 (BBC News):
(assuming after 1C52 and 1C55 cleared the line)
1B53 used as a rescue train for 1D43. It then headed south towards Corby.
The train stopped and sat in tunnel near Corby for an hour as the landslip / flooding had got worse.
1B53 then turned back around to head towards Leicester.
However due to further flooding, it stopped before getting very far.
It was then decided to evacuate using the power car door where passengers had to head past a scrap yard (clue to exact location?) and on to buses.
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Obviously a lot of this is mixed around but it gives a good idea what went on.
Can't see anything about a derailment, so possibly confusion with the silt there.
I also can't find anything official about the evacuation or buses.
To give a bit more background to this:
Obviously a lot of this is mixed around but it gives a good idea what went on.
Can't see anything about a derailment, so possibly confusion with the silt there.
I also can't find anything official about the evacuation or buses.
It seems the train that rescued them from Kettering in the early hours had no catering. I would hope it at least had bottles of water on board?
The trouble is how much can you even take on board, unless you fill the power cars with water (which needs regularly replenishing and weighs a hell of a lot) you're gonna struggle to keep supplies for an 8 hour delay when most journeys are 2 hours or less.
Indeed!The situation regarding derailment isn't certain because of the silt. They think it now probably hasn't derailed but need to dig it out fully to be sure.
Yes, you're right!1C52 was the rescue train which also subsequently got stuck
Trying to put this all in some sort of time order:
INCIDENT 1: TRESSPASS
Around 15:00, there were reports of tresspass just south of Leicester.
Trains began diverting through Corby.
Civil police asked for the line to be stopped, but BTP said no. Trains ro run at caution.
However Cross Country trains in the area stopped anyway with one XC driver out trying to talk the guy down.
Civil police stopped road traffic while waiting for a negotiator.
By 16:00 tresspasser was off the line / trains running "normally".
INCIDENT 2: 1B53
Local BBC News reports 1B53 passengers had an 8 hour journey to London. From RTT, it looks like this train called at Leicester but then diverted to Corby. Whether it then somehow came back through Leicester (picking up the 180 mins delay time), I don't know - this conflicts with the official report below.
INCIDENT 3: THE CORBY AREA
Official report from Network Rail
16:01: Driver of 1D43 reports bank slip and water above rail head near Corby line. Driver is currently checking track.
16:15: 1D43 trapped as rear bogie completely cover in silt.
16:29: Driver of 1C52 reports water is freely running and covering the down (towards Leicester) line. Water is rising on the (towards London) line and covering the rail in certain areas but passable at 5mph.
16:40: (towards London) line to be cleared at extreme caution by 1C52/1C55. 1B53 (the last in the queue) will be used to evacuate 1D43.
16:45: 1C52 now reports that the track beyond 1D43 is completely under water and they are unable to pass. Both lines now at a compete job stop.
16:50: Network Rail staff arrived on site. Three trains (1C52, 1C55, 1B53) stood on (towards London) line. One train (1D43) stood on (towards Leicester) line.
BBC News link: Flood passengers stranded on rescue train
REPORT FROM PERSON ON 1B53 (BBC News):
(assuming after 1C52 and 1C55 cleared the line)
1B53 used as a rescue train for 1D43. It then headed south towards Corby.
The train stopped and sat in tunnel near Corby for an hour as the landslip / flooding had got worse.
1B53 then turned back around to head towards Leicester.
However due to further flooding, it stopped before getting very far.
It was then decided to evacuate using the power car door where passengers had to head past a scrap yard (clue to exact location?) and on to buses.
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Obviously a lot of this is mixed around but it gives a good idea what went on.
Can't see anything about a derailment, so possibly confusion with the silt there.
I also can't find anything official about the evacuation or buses.
One bottle per passenger in the power car would have placated many dehydrated people. Do TOCs keep an emergency supply at major depots? This train came from the depot and sat at Kettering awaiting all stranded passengers so an extra hour to put limited supplies on board would have been useful.
It was in the vicinity of Heritage Way from what I can gether, in a cutting.Was the stranded train south of the tunnel? If so, the train was remarkably near an Asda and Corby station. If North of the tunnel, different story.
It was in the vicinity of Heritage Way from what I can gether, in a cutting.
OTT’s map shows 5C32 still standing on the Up Corby so I don’t think there’s much doubt about that. Nothing could go forward so that’s the only one of the three that could’ve been used.You might want to tell Network Rail to change the log then
Against all advice, given the location and appalling conditions described, I would have detrained myself and family. I'm amazed people didn't, armed with GPS and maps on phones.
Against all advice, given the location and appalling conditions described, I would have detrained myself and family. I'm amazed people didn't, armed with GPS and maps on phones.