Peter Mugridge
Veteran Member
You want a nice wooden seat.
I am not fitting any kind of heavy seat here - I can guarantee you that someone here ( not me ) would slam it down and crack the pan within days.
You want a nice wooden seat.
Not a question of exposure, more a bit of a faff in buttoning back up - I find it easier to do that in a cubicle!
Years ago, my mother had a job as a cleaner in a block of offices.
Although cleaning the men's toilets sometimes had its challenges, apparently it was nothing compared to the women's.
And the aftermath of the office Christmas party would turn your stomach.
A friend who works as a HR manager confirms this dichotomy has not changed in the 21st Century.
Do you remember seeing old signs saying "Please adjust your dress before leaving [a public convenience]" - or something similar? A friend at work used to mix 2 notices and intone "Please adjust your dress before leaving... A refusal often offends!" For the younger readres here, some pubs used to have signs saying "Please do not ask for credit, a refusal often offends!"Er, how is that the case, the process is the same whether at a urinal or cubicle?
I remember travelling on trains coming out of Yugoslavia: I think the local population were accustomed to "squattee" toilets and hence squatted on the seats - with the obvious consequences for the plastic - and the rest of the compartment surroundings! Also imagine (or preferably don't try to) the consequences on their aim in a rough-riding train...Hate to break it to you guys, but women can be disgusting too. Peeing on the seat isn't male preserve, nor is not washing your hands afterwards.
We’re all friends here.Many years ago I learnt that peeing on the seat was a sign of a posh education after following the then DPM into a lavatory and finding in a disgusting state.
I don't think that one had a posh education!We’re all friends here.
Who was it (just give the years if you want)..?
Did he have a choice of Jaguars to use?
Good point.I don't think that one had a posh education!
I would never dream of using a urinal. But surely if we're using a cubicle we sit down?? Thick headed society we live in if not.
It used to be the case that urinals would have privacy dividers. Now they usually don't. I think this may be part of the cause, and I also think the dividers need reinstating.
Perhaps a combination of liking the privacy a cubicle delivers, but just a bit too lazy to bend their legs, just to sit?
I always cover the seat with toilet paper, just to be uber safe.
When it's already wet from someone else, people won't want to touch it to lift and there's not point anyway as it's already wet.
You could just "hover" a couple of inches above the seat?
Why? What are you worried about? That another man may look at your equipment?
Well, yes, some people are.
One thing I've never understood is why you feel that just because you seem to be someone who lives life very much in public (which is fine if that's what suits you) why others should not be desirous of privacy?
100% agree with that.It used to be the case that urinals would have privacy dividers. Now they usually don't. I think this may be part of the cause, and I also think the dividers need reinstating.
Yes...it happens all the time, notice it every day when I go swimming....and don't get me started on men not washing their hands....
For what it's worth, I'm not sure the 'always wash your hands' thing is so clear cut: If you've just used the urinal, then presumably the only things you've touched are... yourself, and your trouser zip/buttons.
Of course you need to wash your hands after using a urinal. There will be possibly splash back and unless you achieve perfect tangential meeting between stream and urinal wall, very fine droplets of other gentlemen's wee wee on your hands.
Why is that? Just curious, if worried about hygiene then surely the urinal is cleaner as you don’t have to touch anything?I would never dream of using a urinal. But surely if we're using a cubicle we sit down?? Thick headed society we live in if not.
Is he unable (or not learnt/taught to) aim well perhaps? One of my friends picked up on this the other day. On the plus side, more free urinals makes going to the toilet easier when in a rushI disagree.
I have noticed that this is seems a thing with the younger generation. My son has always had an aversion to using a urinal since a young age and always went for the privacy of a cubicle which I could never understand. I then started noticing that many young people in places like train stations and motorway services would queue for cubicles even when urinals were free.
Is anyone really that bothered though? Personally I don’t anyone is ever “looking” as such. People want to empty and go.It used to be the case that urinals would have privacy dividers. Now they usually don't. I think this may be part of the cause, and I also think the dividers need reinstating.
it is a urinal for goodness sake! We have been using them for years. Personally I am not worried about the state of my equipment nor am I interested in the equipment of another man. One person in a million is there to check out your equipment and if they are good for them. Why waste energy worrying? I just don't get it. I really don't. People here seem to have hang ups about such minor things that i wonder how some survive the real world.
Personally, I am more worried about that seemingly endless moment ( but is in fact only a second) we all have when you use a urinal and nothing will come out. THAT is uncomfortable.
BTW: Try going to the match and see how quickly you end up using a urinal.
Anyway the rules of urinal use are clear: Eyes forward, always leave one urinal empty between each user, no talking, get the job done and get out.
Well, put into plain terms some men do touch their sausage roll to give it a little shake whilst others give it amore vigorous shake if their meat is more covered up than normal to remove excess urine. Hygiene depends on these factors. If not covered at all say, only zips and trousers need to be touched of course.Exactly. Is touching the outside of your, erm......................................... sausage ( not sure if the actual word or colloquialisms are allowed) very briefly really that different to touching, say, your arm? I get if you have had a sit down toilet session you are going to want to wash but I am not sure that merely using a urinal necessarily needs a vast hand washing ritual thereafter. I do wash my hands but more out of habit than anything else
What would happen if you did get started?
For what it's worth, I'm not sure the 'always wash your hands' thing is so clear cut: If you've just used the urinal, then presumably the only things you've touched are... yourself, and your trouser zip/buttons. However, if the toilet has taps that you have to physically touch to operate, then washing your hands means you need to handle a tap that's already been handled by - maybe, hundreds of other people since it was last cleaned. And those ones that you have to press down and which only let the water flow while you're pressing them down are even worse, as those mean you have to press firmly for several seconds, exactly where everyone else was pressing it - and continue pressing with at least one hand after you've finished washing it. I wonder whether, depending on what kinds of taps the toilet has and how careful you were when you were peeing/doing up your trousers/etc., washing your hands might actually be a lot worse for hygiene than not washing them.
Of course you need to wash your hands after using a urinal. There will be possibly splash back and unless you achieve perfect tangential meeting between stream and urinal wall, very fine droplets of other gentlemen's wee wee on your hands.
from a foot away? these droplets are very active! How close are the urinals that you use?
And stop installing all the urinals at knee height! Some men are tall! Bring back full height troughs with dividers!It used to be the case that urinals would have privacy dividers. Now they usually don't. I think this may be part of the cause, and I also think the dividers need reinstating.
And all of them will have touched it last with a clean hand to turn it off because few public toilet sinks have plugs! And taps are mostly metal so things don't live on them much.However, if the toilet has taps that you have to physically touch to operate, then washing your hands means you need to handle a tap that's already been handled by - maybe, hundreds of other people since it was last cleaned.
And all of them will have touched it last with a clean hand to turn it off because few public toilet sinks have plugs! And taps are mostly metal so things don't live on them much.
I think Boris Johnson and Teresa May would agree with you!I just don't understand why some people think it's OK to just leave their mess for 'someone else' to clear up.
Perhaps a combination of liking the privacy a cubicle delivers
...and depending what trousers I'm wearing, it may be more comfortable to pull them down a little rather than just opening the zip - which would seem a bit inappropriate if I'm not in a private cubicle.